And we think we have a nanny state
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We don't let kids aged 13 leave school, either. The Dutch are no more nannying than we would be.
Would you let your thirteen year old daughter leave education and go travelling for a couple of years? Big question, that. She's lucky her parents even thought of considering it. She's not old enough to (legally) have sex or live by herself unsupervised and she wants to sail around the world? What!?
Yes it could be she has a fantastic devotion to the idea, a single-mindedness of purpose that means she's been training for it since she was two. Or she could be spoilt brat. We don't know. And wouldn't you agree that someone probably should prior to her setting off!?
Would you let your thirteen year old daughter leave education and go travelling for a couple of years? Big question, that. She's lucky her parents even thought of considering it. She's not old enough to (legally) have sex or live by herself unsupervised and she wants to sail around the world? What!?
Yes it could be she has a fantastic devotion to the idea, a single-mindedness of purpose that means she's been training for it since she was two. Or she could be spoilt brat. We don't know. And wouldn't you agree that someone probably should prior to her setting off!?
Adrian W said:
I would have thought that the parents were by right empowered to make these decisions,and they did, rightly or wrongly.
They aren't entitled to take the decision because she would need to drop out of full time education.You cannot take a thirteen year old out of education - either here or in the Netherlands. The state will intervene if you do. You can "home-school" your kids, for example, but you WILL be checked up on.
Glad someone else notices the nannyism over here. Apparently the child protection agency, the magistrates and our government have plenty of time to impose their authoritarianism on a young person who dares to stick her head above the parapet (sp?) where the first have a history of repeatedly failing where parents and children who don't live up to reasonable expactation are concerned, anyway.
But of course, every 13 year old girl in the world must conform to the level of intellectual and emotional maturity the people who run aforementioned institutions likely posessed at that age.
But of course, every 13 year old girl in the world must conform to the level of intellectual and emotional maturity the people who run aforementioned institutions likely posessed at that age.
What would have happend if she had 8 a*s at gcse by the time she was say, 10 which any reasonabley bright child could do with the right tuition? How could the state then claim being in school would be of any benefit. Also the clever parent would have claimed home schooling then waited fpor a couple of visits then said "erm she f
ked off round the world on a yawt. So kin sue me....
ked off round the world on a yawt. So kin sue me....She is a child who what ever she thinks does need looking after, and therefore if her parents are not prepared to care for her the state should.
I have difficulty believing that any 13 year old is capable of sailing solo around the world, and the mental pressures that she will face, even if she can face the physical ones.
I have difficulty believing that any 13 year old is capable of sailing solo around the world, and the mental pressures that she will face, even if she can face the physical ones.
diesel head said:
She is a child who what ever she thinks does need looking after, and therefore if her parents are not prepared to care for her the state should.
I have difficulty believing that any 13 year old is capable of sailing solo around the world, and the mental pressures that she will face, even if she can face the physical ones.
Don't apply your fI have difficulty believing that any 13 year old is capable of sailing solo around the world, and the mental pressures that she will face, even if she can face the physical ones.
ked up generalisations to other people. 
I think it is madness that this girl is even contemplating this. I went to sea in the Merchant Navy at 16, and there is so much to it that it takes a long time to learn, does she know how to navigate celestially in the event of her of her GPS going US, I doubt it. As for any damage issues, could she physically be capable of fixing them, I severly doubt it.
BIANCO said:
I think the state should steep in far more in this country when it comes to kids. There are thousands of parents who are unfit to care for kids but are allowed to keep them, just look at the baby P case.
Imagine the costs of actually doing that. 20 percent tax would need to be more like 45!It would be far cheaper just to have a cull.
Popeyed said:
I think it is madness that this girl is even contemplating this. I went to sea in the Merchant Navy at 16, and...
You are not her. If I were to tell you what you can and cannot do, based on my personal capabilities and challenges I assume you'd be a tad miffed, too. The emotional, intellectual, and physical development of young people does far from always run along the same lines in the same sort of timeframe. From what I've seen and read, this 13 year old young lady may well be more mature in the relevant aspects than most 26 year olds I know.
Gedon said:
diesel head said:
She is a child who what ever she thinks does need looking after, and therefore if her parents are not prepared to care for her the state should.
I have difficulty believing that any 13 year old is capable of sailing solo around the world, and the mental pressures that she will face, even if she can face the physical ones.
Don't apply your fI have difficulty believing that any 13 year old is capable of sailing solo around the world, and the mental pressures that she will face, even if she can face the physical ones.
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