Abducted for 18 years....

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st_files

Original Poster:

5,433 posts

187 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8225621....

What punishment can you give these scum? They've ruined the lives of this girl and her parents, and probably damaged any brothers/sisters she has. Its just mind boggling, what do you do with them?

kambites

68,199 posts

227 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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They'll get life in prison, which given their ages will probably mean life in prison.

You've got to wonder what goes through the minds of people to make them do that kind of thing, though. It's not the kind of thing you do because you're a "bad person", it must take a seriously twisted mind to do something like that.

Don

28,377 posts

290 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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When I saw this story I really was horrified.

The poor young woman and her two girls will need a truly vast amount of assistance to ever be able to lead normal lives.

The children have had no education at all. She's only had primary school. How will they live?

They will probably need to live in institutions for the remainder of their days...at least it will be more comfortable than a tent in the evil bds backyard spiced up with the occasional rape.

I hope the perpetrating couple rot in hell.

st_files

Original Poster:

5,433 posts

187 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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Don said:
When I saw this story I really was horrified.

The poor young woman and her two girls will need a truly vast amount of assistance to ever be able to lead normal lives.

The children have had no education at all. She's only had primary school. How will they live?

They will probably need to live in institutions for the remainder of their days...at least it will be more comfortable than a tent in the evil bds backyard spiced up with the occasional rape.

I hope the perpetrating couple rot in hell.
Thats the really horrendous part, the 2 scumbags will spend the rest of their days in comfortable accomodation getting 3 meals a day and medical care.....its times like this where I truly hope I am wrong about there being no afterlife.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

218 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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And some women complain about never being let out the kitchen!!

No but really, it's quite horrific, can't even imagine having grown up all my life in a shed!

cazzer

8,883 posts

254 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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article said:
Their identities were revealed after police spotted Mr Garrido as he handed out religious literature at the University of California Berkeley campus with the two young children
Now why does that not surprise me. rolleyes

G_T

16,160 posts

196 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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Don said:
The poor young woman and her two girls will need a truly vast amount of assistance to ever be able to lead normal lives.
They won't ever lead normal lives. They'll be damaged beyond any hope of even a reasonable existance.

As strong as people can be there is a limit to how much the human soul can endure. I fear this is almost certainly the case.




Poledriver

28,765 posts

200 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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Was it CaraVanMan or Rod Rammage? biggrin

tuglet

1,245 posts

242 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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cazzer said:
article said:
Their identities were revealed after police spotted Mr Garrido as he handed out religious literature at the University of California Berkeley campus with the two young children
Now why does that not surprise me. rolleyes
I don't think his wickedness has anything to do with his personal religious beliefs. He is evil despite his religious convictions. In the same way that atheists do evil things not because they are atheists, but because they are evil. It's a whole different matter when organised religions encourage or condone evil though e.g. the crusades, the inquistion, fatwas etc... I think this is just more evidence that morality does not come from religion, scripture, God...



G_T

16,160 posts

196 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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tuglet said:
cazzer said:
article said:
Their identities were revealed after police spotted Mr Garrido as he handed out religious literature at the University of California Berkeley campus with the two young children
Now why does that not surprise me. rolleyes
I don't think his wickedness has anything to do with his personal religious beliefs. He is evil despite his religious convictions. In the same way that atheists do evil things not because they are atheists, but because they are evil. It's a whole different matter when organised religions encourage or condone evil though e.g. the crusades, the inquistion, fatwas etc... I think this is just more evidence that morality does not come from religion, scripture, God...
Statistically speaking though... People who tend to take advice from voices in their head are generally more inclined to do illogical things though I would have thought. smile

Absolutely agree with the morality doesn't come from scripture though. It's effectively been proven. There's a book by a scientist called Marc Hauser called "moral minds", it's a bit of a heavy read but it proves this point very effectively without a long drawn out religious debate... And for that there's always Dawkins.


Poledriver

28,765 posts

200 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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This on the back of his car?

p4cks

7,008 posts

205 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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18 years though? Something about this story doesn't sit right with me.

G_T

16,160 posts

196 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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p4cks said:
18 years though? Something about this story doesn't sit right with me.
You think perhaps she's been touring Europe and decided this is the best way of getting out of paying off her overdraft?

FourWheelDrift

89,441 posts

290 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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p4cks said:
18 years though? Something about this story doesn't sit right with me.
He could have told her anything when she was young and impressionable, for example he'd kill her parents if she talked/escaped or something similar. Then as time went on he could have fed her other lies to make it sound as if they didn't want her any more. The psychological torture can be worse than the physical.

nonegreen

7,803 posts

276 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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Poledriver said:
This on the back of his car?
Thats enough evidence for me, time to bomb the churches.

bonsai

2,015 posts

186 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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p4cks said:
18 years though? Something about this story doesn't sit right with me.
I am of a similar opinion.

It may be Stockholm syndrom, it may be something else entirely, but given the nature of her prison I find it very hard to understand how she could not have escaped. It wasn't exactly a Frtitzl-esque dungeon now was it.

JuniorD

8,784 posts

229 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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California has the death penalty still, I guess it takes a murder for it to apply though.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

191 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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18 years? Psh, didn't even beat Fritzls high score.

Andy_stook_2k

179 posts

183 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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One poor girl was kept in a wooden box for years by a weirdo and his wife.

http://demand.five.tv/Episode.aspx?episodeBaseName...

This one-off documentary tells the disturbing true story of a bizarre kidnapping case that took place in America in the late 1970s. In northern California, a sexual sadist abducted a young woman and kept her in a coffin-sized box for seven years, relentlessly abusing and torturing her. But when the case came to court some years later, serious doubts were to emerge as to what had actually taken place.

On 19th May, 1977, Colleen Stan was hitchhiking through Red Bluff in California when she accepted a ride with Cameron Hooker, his wife Janice and their baby daughter. Hooker drove to the outskirts of the town and stopped, allowing his wife and child to leave the car. He then grabbed Colleen and blindfolded her, before fitting her with a homemade contraption that was to become known as the ‘head box’. “The purpose of the head box was to prevent people from hearing you scream,” explains Al Shamblin, a former Red Bluff police chief.

Hooker took his victim to his house, hung her by her wrists in the basement and, after whipping her, left her overnight – bound, gagged and struggling for breath. The next day, Colleen was chained to a homemade torture rack and left all day. “I didn’t understand what was going on,” she recalls. However, her ordeal was only just beginning.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

191 months

Friday 28th August 2009
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Andy_stook_2k said:
One poor girl was kept in a wooden box for years by a weirdo and his wife.

http://demand.five.tv/Episode.aspx?episodeBaseName...

This one-off documentary tells the disturbing true story of a bizarre kidnapping case that took place in America in the late 1970s. In northern California, a sexual sadist abducted a young woman and kept her in a coffin-sized box for seven years, relentlessly abusing and torturing her. But when the case came to court some years later, serious doubts were to emerge as to what had actually taken place.

On 19th May, 1977, Colleen Stan was hitchhiking through Red Bluff in California when she accepted a ride with Cameron Hooker, his wife Janice and their baby daughter. Hooker drove to the outskirts of the town and stopped, allowing his wife and child to leave the car. He then grabbed Colleen and blindfolded her, before fitting her with a homemade contraption that was to become known as the ‘head box’. “The purpose of the head box was to prevent people from hearing you scream,” explains Al Shamblin, a former Red Bluff police chief.

Hooker took his victim to his house, hung her by her wrists in the basement and, after whipping her, left her overnight – bound, gagged and struggling for breath. The next day, Colleen was chained to a homemade torture rack and left all day. “I didn’t understand what was going on,” she recalls. However, her ordeal was only just beginning.
The fk?
After about 2 months there would be no way the guy doing that to me would live for long.
I'd figure out a way to kill him.