Public sector spend slow down
Discussion
Anybody seen it yet?
Daily I am bombarded with non-sense tenders and projects from quangos I didn't even know existed. Just had an invite to a free 'end of project dinner' from one public sector organisation (with overnight accomodation thrown in).
Yet yesterday I sat with a group of civil servants (2 by video link to save the train fares) to be told they are having to make major financial cut backs and are taking work they have out-sourced to us for 7 years back in house to save their jobs, despite the fact it will take them three times as long to do it, only save £10K and they only do it every 3 or 4 years. They are even talking about taking some very mundane work we do for them and giving it to their highly paid and well qualified staff to do (as they are paying their wages anyway and they have little work for them) so as to avoid redundancies (although 2 of my staf wil then be without jobs).
Seems the screws are starting to turn but only in some areas.
Daily I am bombarded with non-sense tenders and projects from quangos I didn't even know existed. Just had an invite to a free 'end of project dinner' from one public sector organisation (with overnight accomodation thrown in).
Yet yesterday I sat with a group of civil servants (2 by video link to save the train fares) to be told they are having to make major financial cut backs and are taking work they have out-sourced to us for 7 years back in house to save their jobs, despite the fact it will take them three times as long to do it, only save £10K and they only do it every 3 or 4 years. They are even talking about taking some very mundane work we do for them and giving it to their highly paid and well qualified staff to do (as they are paying their wages anyway and they have little work for them) so as to avoid redundancies (although 2 of my staf wil then be without jobs).
Seems the screws are starting to turn but only in some areas.
My OH works for the Environment Agency and they are not replacing some positions. She is also not allowed to spend anything like she was on capital equipment.
You will probably find 'headline' Government agencies in the public eye are not being squeezed as hard as the unpopular and little publicised ones.
You will probably find 'headline' Government agencies in the public eye are not being squeezed as hard as the unpopular and little publicised ones.
A 35-50% cull of all public sector jobs would make no appreciable dent in the "work" that these people actually do... nurses, BiBs, Firemen and ambulance peeps excluded... I mean the so-called paper generating non-job "managers" at all stages who couldn't manage the proverbial p*ss-up in a brewery...
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Despite people losing their jobs over this......this is a good thing.
Public sector is far too inefficient. It's far to big, costs too much, and they are always too slow doing anything.
Britain's economy needs this.
My experience was that they were shifting the job losses to the private sector by cancelling out sourcing and taking in-house work they are not suited to do, or which they will end up paying more to do indirectly because in-house staff costs are not 'real money'.Public sector is far too inefficient. It's far to big, costs too much, and they are always too slow doing anything.
Britain's economy needs this.
It also looks from my experience like education is being much better protected than the other 'front line' services where I am seeing significant belt tightening.
JMGS4 said:
A 35-50% cull of all public sector jobs would make no appreciable dent in the "work" that these people actually do... nurses, BiBs, Firemen and ambulance peeps excluded... I mean the so-called paper generating non-job "managers" at all stages who couldn't manage the proverbial p*ss-up in a brewery...
even 60% in some departments would have no noticable effect. For example 800 people handle the wages and pensions from the non military MOD staff. This could be done by about 20 people. Thats 780 people available to build roads and arrest green protestors 
Fantastic....Four Cofffee said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Despite people losing their jobs over this......this is a good thing.
Public sector is far too inefficient. It's far to big, costs too much, and they are always too slow doing anything.
Britain's economy needs this.
My experience was that they were shifting the job losses to the private sector by cancelling out sourcing and taking in-house work they are not suited to do, or which they will end up paying more to do indirectly because in-house staff costs are not 'real money'.Public sector is far too inefficient. It's far to big, costs too much, and they are always too slow doing anything.
Britain's economy needs this.
It also looks from my experience like education is being much better protected than the other 'front line' services where I am seeing significant belt tightening.
Agency fees are approx £2m a year (fag packet calculation) More and more unnecessary new books, course changes and money for unnecessary junk.
What needs to be got rid of is the "If we don't spend all of the budget, it will get reduced" attitude.
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