Shell selling Stanlow, and other European refineries

Shell selling Stanlow, and other European refineries

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s2art

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18,942 posts

259 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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WTF? Anyone know what is going on here? Profits are down, but Shell is still a huge profitable company. What do they know that we dont?

TheEnd

15,370 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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Karma for unofficial strikes

Groober

775 posts

186 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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An article said the plans shell have in place to cut costs in the coming years would reduce their refining capacity by 8%. When demand for fuel picks up that could have a major impact surley.


DSM2

3,624 posts

206 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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Anyone know how much they are asking? I wouldn't mind having my own refinery........... wink

johnfm

13,668 posts

256 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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Groober said:
An article said the plans shell have in place to cut costs in the coming years would reduce their refining capacity by 8%. When demand for fuel picks up that could have a major impact surley.
Well, it depends at what capacity they are running at at the moment. I expect they know how much capacity they need and now and in the future.

Olf

11,974 posts

224 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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Many oil cos will tell you there ain't much money in refining. Especially if the refinery is becoming aged...

Edited by Olf on Tuesday 18th August 22:35

GT03ROB

13,537 posts

227 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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Groober said:
An article said the plans shell have in place to cut costs in the coming years would reduce their refining capacity by 8%. When demand for fuel picks up that could have a major impact surley.
Depends on how you see the ROI in upstream as against downstream as against retail......retail is abysmal.... downstream is very competitive, upstream is the preserve of the few. Makes total sense.

Groober

775 posts

186 months

Tuesday 18th August 2009
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GT03ROB said:
Groober said:
An article said the plans shell have in place to cut costs in the coming years would reduce their refining capacity by 8%. When demand for fuel picks up that could have a major impact surley.
Depends on how you see the ROI in upstream as against downstream as against retail......retail is abysmal.... downstream is very competitive, upstream is the preserve of the few. Makes total sense.
I see! smile

ZondaMark

373 posts

193 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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Haven't they said they'll keep it open if they can't find a buyer?

leon_t

295 posts

210 months

Wednesday 19th August 2009
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They're simply carrying out a review of the profitability of many of theirdownstream sites, including the potential to sell facilities if they decide that they do not offer a profitable, stable future. It's a common thing for oil companies to do in poor market conditions, I know of at least one other major oil co. doing similar (but not with UK facilities at this point I must add).

No certainty they'll sell Stanlow, they may chose any one of a number of options.

skwdenyer

17,824 posts

246 months

Friday 21st August 2009
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s2art said:
WTF? Anyone know what is going on here? Profits are down, but Shell is still a huge profitable company. What do they know that we dont?
Perhaps they could redevelop it as one of the new "eco towns"?

Seriously, since I worked there for a while, I'd hate to think what it would cost to decommission that site. I still remember the safety briefing: "there are 3 site-wide alarms here; fire is the least serious". The prospect of a leak from the high-pressure HF "ring main" wasn't much fun, but even less fun was the day the cat cracker went up smile