'Knocking the handbrake off..'

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Funk

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26,511 posts

215 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Apparently it can be done 'accidentally'...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Girl-Dive...

Now forgive me, but every single car I've owned has required me to press the button and lift the handbrake before it would release. Given that the girl in the picture is holding the bumper to a '57 plate car, I would imagine this can't be done easily either.

She was obviously playing about with it and caused a major scene; tents destroyed (luckily empty!) and a massive S'n'R mission from the RNLI and Coastguard.

I can see the outcome of this being very different if it had been anyone other than a young girl. Am I too cynical?

ETA: It's a Citroen evidently; do they have conventional handbrakes or are they now button-operated?

Edited by Funk on Monday 17th August 00:43

dxg

8,656 posts

266 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Funk said:
Apparently it can be done 'accidentally'...

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Girl-Dive...

Now forgive me, but every single car I've owned has required me to press the button and lift the handbrake before it would release. Given that the girl in the picture is holding the bumper to a '57 plate car, I would imagine this can't be done easily either.

She was obviously playing about with it and caused a major scene; tents destroyed (luckily empty!) and a massive S'n'R mission from the RNLI and Coastguard.

I can see the outcome of this being very different if it had been anyone other than a young girl. Am I too cynical?

ETA: It's a Citroen evidently; do they have conventional handbrakes or are they now button-operated?

Edited by Funk on Monday 17th August 00:43
<cough>Insurance job</cough> and the money from selling her story to the press will come in handy, too.

In fact, her entire story is fishier than the fishes who got a surprise.

That reg is for a Citreon C4 Grand Picasso, a vehicle that doesn't have a handbrake:

review said:
At the heart of the mission to maximise interior space is Citroen’s electronic gearbox, which consists of a steering column-mounted gearchange lever and a handbrake button on the dashboard, freeing the area between the seats.
Now, fair enough, it's French, so I could fully believe that the electronic hanbrake failed, but why the story about pulling on the lever when it hasn't got one.

Edited by dxg on Monday 17th August 01:04

dxg

8,656 posts

266 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Ok, so she's 11, but should could have been put up to it by her parents!]

Or it could be a classic "what does this button do?" moment.

Funk

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215 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Well it wasn't her car as she's only 11..

This raises the question; can the electronic parking brake be released without the keys in the ignition? WERE the keys in the ignition, in order to have the stereo on? Mine works without the key for an hour.

More fool the grandparents who left an 11 year old girl in a car, with the keys in the ignition. She was obviously fiddling with buttons and pressed the electronic parking brake one, disengaging it. Presumably it's not just a case of pressing the button again to re-engage it? Seems like a hell of a design flaw to my mind.

pokethepope

2,664 posts

194 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Im guessing the button was situated near the stereo on the dash, and she was fiddling about for the play/volume/tune button and inadvertantly hit the handbrake button.

Funk

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Monday 17th August 2009
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A point I'd just made.

How can the brake be released without the keys in the ignition and the engine running?

The Riddler

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203 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Amanda on the Sky News link said:
When I was 14 my mum broke down halfway up a hill. She got out and opened the bonnet to inspect the engine.She instructed me to put the car into gear, but I unlocked the handbrake instead. The car rolled down a steep hill, through a brick wall and hedge, to land in mum's friends's garden. So, yes, it is possible to 'accidentally' knock off the handbrake.
Posted By :Amanda
So its mainly a problem suffered by girls?

hehe

adqt

93 posts

236 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Funk said:
How can the brake be released without the keys in the ignition and the engine running?
Dunno.....most electronic park brakes ive encountered require the footbrake to be depressed to release them

madrob6

3,594 posts

226 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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The handbrake on my Passat won't release without the key in the ignition and your foot on the brake, even then it sometimes still refuses to.

Funk

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Monday 17th August 2009
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So basically this is all starting to smell a little fishy...?

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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There is no way that a car would be approved for sale with a handbrake that can be released by a press of a button with the ignition off.

F i F

45,255 posts

257 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Yes, Volvo V70 switched parking brake is the same, requires feet to be doing things on various pedals before it will disengage.

Having said that who wasn't allowed by their parents to move the car about a bit at that age when on a camping / caravan holiday? I know I was.

john_p

7,073 posts

256 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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To be fair I was often left in a car aged 10+ and would think nothing of fiddling with buttons as I saw fit.

Memorable moment was putting my mum's Merc into 'N' from Park and discovering that there was about a metre of movement before the handbrake caught the slack. I don't think she noticed when she returned to the car.

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Yes, my Mum used to leave us in the car for ten minutes too. When you are 11 and understand the link between clutch and gearbox and handbrake in whether the car will move or not, you can be naughty without causing havoc (unless you are unlucky).

s3fella

10,524 posts

193 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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A fitting end to a turd of a car. A few more shi trons should be pushed off cliffs IMO.

telecat

8,528 posts

247 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Not Just French cars. A Mondeo Estate Pool car "disappeared" from the Car Park where I worked once. We reported it to the Police who rang back to say that the car had rolled into a wall and been recovered to a bodyshop for repair. Mondeo handbrakes had a bit of a reputation I gather.

Oakey

27,759 posts

222 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Heard this girl on the news on Radio 1, apparently she's now saying she dropped her mobile phone in the footwell or something and went to pick it up and accidentally pressed the handbrake button.

FourWheelDrift

89,438 posts

290 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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Oakey said:
she's now saying she dropped her mobile phone in the footwell or something and went to pick it up and accidentally pressed the handbrake button.
....whilst simultaneously turning the key in the ignition, selecting neutral on the gearbox and putting her other hand on the foot brake.

Skii

1,670 posts

197 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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ahh yes the same excuse used by the (now heavily pregnant) chavette in the communal car par across the other side of our cul-de-sac. Whilst 'cleaning' her uninsured untaxed (she can't drive either) 5 series bimmer she accidentally knocked the handbrake off , causing it to accelerate across a perfectly flat car park through the front wall of a 3 bedroom house, poor family within having to move out for nearly 5 months...

Kaelic

2,696 posts

207 months

Monday 17th August 2009
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OH has exactly the same car ... stupid wench (OH not the kid)

And the Handbrake is right in the centre console up where the multi function display thingy is, it is literally a two inch button which doesnt look important or dangerous to a kid frown

it is the centre button in this piccy



Dead easy to be knocked off and the car hates to be in gear when it is turned off too ... so it is a recipie for a disaster

Only need to apply the foot pedal to get the car turned on also

will try it tonight on the drive hehe