Americans on smoking ffs

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Friday 14th August 2009
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StevieBee

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261 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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"a former two-pack-a-day Marlboro smoker who started when she was 16 and died in her 70s, attorneys said Thursday"

So much for a life shortening addiction!!

The lady in question would have started smoking in an age when these sort of ads were deemed acceptable!










unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Big tobacco ignored the medical evidence for years and spent billions lobbying for and promoting a product that they knew was killing people. Difficult to feel sorry for them now.

teapea

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192 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Love them posters!
It's hard to believe people were that naive!

Edited by teapea on Friday 14th August 13:53

esselte

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273 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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teapea said:
Love them posters!
It's hard to believe people were that naive!

Edited by teapea on Friday 14th August 13:53
Wasn't just the 'states..


Menguin

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227 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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They were 36.5% responsible? FFS I am glad I don't live in America.

FourWheelDrift

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290 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Smoked fish keeps longer so maybe she would have died earlier had she not smoked.

Spiritual_Beggar

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200 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Menguin said:
They were 36.5% responsible? FFS I am glad I don't live in America.
Would love to see what equation they used to calculate that!



Whilst on this subject, I can highly recommend the film; "Thankyou for Smoking"

Very funny film, and deals with just this topic. Enjoy smile

KANEIT

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225 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
Smoked fish keeps longer so maybe she would have died earlier had she not smoked.
excellent!

jamoor

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221 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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Is it me or does it come accross in the advert that a human life is worth $5.8million in the states.

BrassMan

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195 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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From All The Colors Of Darkness, published 1963.
Lloyd Biggle Jr said:
I thought that the tobacco companies had that cancer thing licked years ago.
The idea that it was all an evil coverup, so effective that no one knew that smoking was harmful, is utterly ludicrous.

Edited by BrassMan on Saturday 15th August 00:54

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

237 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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I think we should just keep making them and sell them to those people and places that choose to smoke them. wink

MK4 Slowride

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214 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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jamoor said:
Is it me or does it come accross in the advert that a human life is worth $5.8million in the states.
Inflation

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Jimbeaux

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Friday 14th August 2009
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Menguin said:
They were 36.5% responsible? FFS I am glad I don't live in America.
That is neccessary in a court decision as a fomula is needed to determine monetary payout. The % you posted about was set by a jury, so a court case.

elster

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216 months

Friday 14th August 2009
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jamoor said:
Is it me or does it come accross in the advert that a human life is worth $5.8million in the states.
I think more like 150k realistically. I think this is a similar case to when the kilo of cocaine they seize is worth £x million. I believe they are getting raped at those prices.

bluetone

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225 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Guam said:
Frankly its bks, people make their own choices (I smoke) the tendency towards blame culture is ridiculous these days, you might as well start a class action against the Drinks companies or against Afghan farmers for growing opium or sue the South American Drug cartels (love to see how far they got with that one). smile

The only person whose fault it is for contracting the big "C" from tobacco is those of us who smoke end of.

I would not award anyone a penny for self induced carcenoma smile

That being said mind I have yet to see ANY explanation for the 30+% of non smokers who I was informed get Lung Cancer.

It does concern me that the concentration on smoking over the years has masked a more fundamental issue going on (not disputing that smoking increase risk considerably before anyone piles in)! smile
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If you took-up smoking in the era when it was advertised as being good for you (see numerous Doctor smokers adverts) I can kind of see that there is culpability on behalf of the tobacco industry.
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Nowadays if Product X was advertised as being good for you and you bought it for ages only to find out it was seriously carcinogenic, you'd rightly be upset, no?

Hedders

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253 months

Saturday 15th August 2009
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Funk Odyssey said:
surely smoking is not the only cause of lung cancer ?
No, but if everyone has a 30% chance of lung cancer, how much does that go up if you smoke? 10% more? What about if you don't go into cities, i bet your chances are much reduced then. Maybe we should be banning cities, and not smoking!


Tiggsy

10,261 posts

258 months

Sunday 16th August 2009
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just been researching this actually.....there are non-smokers who get lung cancer but the stats are VERY low for them. basically, if you dont smoke and get it you are very unlucky, if you quit young and get it then your rather unlucky...if you smoke till old age you'll be lucky NOT to get it!