Mail on Sunday "An important part of our democracy" ?!
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I'm just listening to Radio 2 while trying to write a dull design document and I've just heard Jeremy Vine (while promoting his show) going on about lying about your age.
Something that he said was this:
Something that he said was this:
Jeremy Vine said:
The Mail on Sunday is "An important part of our democracy"
Was I the only one that heard this and, if I did, is it not an utterly ridiculous thing to say that no one newspaper (whichever one it is) is "An important part of our democracy" ?james_tigerwoods said:
I'm just listening to Radio 2 while trying to write a dull design document and I've just heard Jeremy Vine (while promoting his show) going on about lying about your age.
Something that he said was this:
Well,without the Telegraph would we have known what the MPs were up to with our money?Something that he said was this:
Jeremy Vine said:
The Mail on Sunday is "An important part of our democracy"
Was I the only one that heard this and, if I did, is it not an utterly ridiculous thing to say that no one newspaper (whichever one it is) is "An important part of our democracy" ?esselte said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I'm just listening to Radio 2 while trying to write a dull design document and I've just heard Jeremy Vine (while promoting his show) going on about lying about your age.
Something that he said was this:
Well,without the Telegraph would we have known what the MPs were up to with our money?Something that he said was this:
Jeremy Vine said:
The Mail on Sunday is "An important part of our democracy"
Was I the only one that heard this and, if I did, is it not an utterly ridiculous thing to say that no one newspaper (whichever one it is) is "An important part of our democracy" ?There is, of course, the high likelihood that this is what he meant anyway
james_tigerwoods said:
I'm just listening to Radio 2 while trying to write a dull design document and I've just heard Jeremy Vine (while promoting his show) going on about lying about your age.
Something that he said was this:
I think you need to describe more of the background of what was being said to be honest.Something that he said was this:
Jeremy Vine said:
The Mail on Sunday is "An important part of our democracy"
Was I the only one that heard this and, if I did, is it not an utterly ridiculous thing to say that no one newspaper (whichever one it is) is "An important part of our democracy" ?Was the article about a single issue, was it about the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday, was it about representation.
The comment doesn't really stand on its own.
tinman0 said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I'm just listening to Radio 2 while trying to write a dull design document and I've just heard Jeremy Vine (while promoting his show) going on about lying about your age.
Something that he said was this:
I think you need to describe more of the background of what was being said to be honest.Something that he said was this:
Jeremy Vine said:
The Mail on Sunday is "An important part of our democracy"
Was I the only one that heard this and, if I did, is it not an utterly ridiculous thing to say that no one newspaper (whichever one it is) is "An important part of our democracy" ?Was the article about a single issue, was it about the Daily Mail and Mail on Sunday, was it about representation.
The comment doesn't really stand on its own.
james_tigerwoods said:
I can't remember the exact statement, but it was something to do with some celebrity lying about being 50 and it appearing in the Mail on Sunday and then he went off on a tangent about how that paper is important in our democracy.
Sounds like he was taking the piss.tinman0 said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I can't remember the exact statement, but it was something to do with some celebrity lying about being 50 and it appearing in the Mail on Sunday and then he went off on a tangent about how that paper is important in our democracy.
Sounds like he was taking the piss.esselte said:
james_tigerwoods said:
I'm just listening to Radio 2 while trying to write a dull design document and I've just heard Jeremy Vine (while promoting his show) going on about lying about your age.
Something that he said was this:
Well,without the Telegraph would we have known what the MPs were up to with our money?Something that he said was this:
Jeremy Vine said:
The Mail on Sunday is "An important part of our democracy"
Was I the only one that heard this and, if I did, is it not an utterly ridiculous thing to say that no one newspaper (whichever one it is) is "An important part of our democracy" ?FPC said:
It was hardly investigative journalism - my understanding is that the details were simply sold to the highest bidding paper.
Well, we can rule the Guardian, (un)Independant and Mirror out, we could probably rule The Times out seeing as they like being in bed with New Labour, which leaves the Telegraph and Daily Mail.What a truly awful state our press are in when you think about it.
Thank god we have the BBC News and Channel 4 News to even things up.
tinman0 said:
FPC said:
It was hardly investigative journalism - my understanding is that the details were simply sold to the highest bidding paper.
Well, we can rule the Guardian, (un)Independant and Mirror out, we could probably rule The Times out seeing as they like being in bed with New Labour, which leaves the Telegraph and Daily Mail.What a truly awful state our press are in when you think about it.
Thank god we have the BBC News and Channel 4 News to even things up.
The Working Man's newspaper
zac510 said:
Imagine if you lived in Australia and 5 of the capital cities had daily newspapers with no competition; completely monopolised by News Corp. That's the kind of point he's getting at.
Most PH'ers would be fine with that - it's bias they agree with. Bias is only bad when it goes the other way. Bias you support is called balanced journalism.
ks anyway, I doubt this was any stupider than all of the other crap he no-doubt spewed from his retarded mouth today anyway.Colonial said:
zac510 said:
Imagine if you lived in Australia and 5 of the capital cities had daily newspapers with no competition; completely monopolised by News Corp. That's the kind of point he's getting at.
Most PH'ers would be fine with that - it's bias they agree with. Bias is only bad when it goes the other way. Bias you support is called balanced journalism.
People generally know which papers are aligned with which viewpoint, and read them or not depending on their own personal preference. Where an organisation is supposed to be representing and catering for the population as a whole, then bias is not acceptable.
It is called irony, or perhaps sarcasm.
He (Mr Vine) is giving a purpose or credibility to The Mail on Sunday in the sure and certain knowledge that all his listeners know it to be a worthless, vapid, sensationalist pile of guano without principles or journalistic scruples, that somehow is picked up, read, and even believed by that proportion of the population who do not think it necessary to turn on their brains from day to day. He is doing what that flyblown rag of a 'newspaper' never does, which is to credit the audience with a modicum of intelligence and discernment. He was obviously setting his sights a little high.....
He (Mr Vine) is giving a purpose or credibility to The Mail on Sunday in the sure and certain knowledge that all his listeners know it to be a worthless, vapid, sensationalist pile of guano without principles or journalistic scruples, that somehow is picked up, read, and even believed by that proportion of the population who do not think it necessary to turn on their brains from day to day. He is doing what that flyblown rag of a 'newspaper' never does, which is to credit the audience with a modicum of intelligence and discernment. He was obviously setting his sights a little high.....
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