German Football Song Irks Muslims

[Jimbeaux]

It is the German's turn in the box:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8185209.stm

[Corpulent Tosser]

What I don't get about this is that it is not actually some Muslim(s) complaining, it is the club themselves who have asked a Muslim 'expert' if the lyrics are offensive. Why bother, it is just a song FFS.

[fathomfive]

Don't people have anything better to do with their lives?

[Anya]

Shish!
Never heard Posh Spice complaining. Some people are just so touchy

[Jimbeaux]

Corpulent Tosser said:

What I don't get about this is that it is not actually some Muslim(s) complaining, it is the club themselves who have asked a Muslim 'expert' if the lyrics are offensive. Why bother, it is just a song FFS.

I think that angry Muslims bombarded the club with emails after which the club management went to the Muslim expert to get an opinion.

[Silver993tt]

Jimbeaux said:

Corpulent Tosser said:

What I don't get about this is that it is not actually some Muslim(s) complaining, it is the club themselves who have asked a Muslim 'expert' if the lyrics are offensive. Why bother, it is just a song FFS.

I think that angry Muslims bombarded the club with emails after which the club management went to the Muslim expert to get an opinion.

Why didn't they just ignore the emails? The song has been part of the local culture since 1924. If they can't integrate and accept that then they should make their way to Frankfurt airport.

[AndrewW-G]

Silver993tt said:

Jimbeaux said:

Corpulent Tosser said:

What I don't get about this is that it is not actually some Muslim(s) complaining, it is the club themselves who have asked a Muslim 'expert' if the lyrics are offensive. Why bother, it is just a song FFS.

I think that angry Muslims bombarded the club with emails after which the club management went to the Muslim expert to get an opinion.

Why didn't they just ignore the emails? The song has been part of the local culture since 1924. If they can't integrate and accept that then they should make their way to Frankfurt airport.

The article seems to suggest that the people complaining are in Turkey!

ETA:

beeb news said:

The club has received hundreds of e-mails from angry Muslims recently, since Turkish media carried reports about the song.

Edited by AndrewW-G on Thursday 6th August 13:08

[KANEIT]

As far as I understand it states that Mohammad knew nothing about football (not an insult, just a fact) but that he liked the colours of that football team. Where's the insult?

[Silver993tt]

KANEIT said:

As far as I understand it states that Mohammad knew nothing about football (not an insult, just a fact) but that he liked the colours of that football team. Where's the insult?

There is no isult, the words are factual. It's just the unfortunate climate where so many try and take advantage of the PC world we now live in. I'm just waiting for the clainm for 'compensation' to start

Germany has done so much for the Turkish people over the years. They have a great standard of living in Germany compared to what they would have had if they had stayed in Turkey. Hopefully it's only a minority who are kicking up a fuss but it makes my blood boil when people start to throw rocks at the people who gave them such opportunities for their lives and families.

[Jimbeaux]

KANEIT said:

As far as I understand it states that Mohammad knew nothing about football (not an insult, just a fact) but that he liked the colours of that football team. Where's the insult?

I suppose that any utterance of his name by "infidels" is not allowed!

[patmahe]

Getting pretty fed up of this sort of thing, between teddy bears and cartoons and now this. I'm sure most Muslims couldn't care less about this stuff and its the few extreme Muslims that are causing this unecessary fuss.

The thing is this type of action eventually leads to a widespread view that all Muslims think like this and breeds hatred and contempt.

I'm an Irish Catholic and I think I can safely say that we have been the butt of many jokes, or cartoons over the years. However not once have I complained about the use of the word 'Paddy' or piss-taking at the expense of the Irish, because no-one takes is seriously, its only a bit of humour and if anyone was to dispense these types of insults in a serious manner then they would be seen as the biggoted idiots they clearly are.

Its getting to a point where non-muslim people are afraid to talk about muslims in case they are seen as racist. This is a situation I'm sure no-one, least of all the muslim community wants to see. It splits society in two, when what we should all be working towards is further integration and tolerance for one anothers beliefs/views.

[Jimbeaux]

patmahe said:

Getting pretty fed up of this sort of thing, between teddy bears and cartoons and now this. I'm sure most Muslims couldn't care less about this stuff and its the few extreme Muslims that are causing this unecessary fuss.

The thing is this type of action eventually leads to a widespread view that all Muslims think like this and breeds hatred and contempt.

Agreed. That is the same reason why a minority of Christian extremists give the other 99% a bad name.

[B Oeuf]

Jimbeaux said:

Corpulent Tosser said:

What I don't get about this is that it is not actually some Muslim(s) complaining, it is the club themselves who have asked a Muslim 'expert' if the lyrics are offensive. Why bother, it is just a song FFS.

I think that angry Muslims bombarded the club with emails after which the club management went to the Muslim expert to get an opinion.

Maybe not the best choice of words there jimbeaux

[Jimbeaux]

B Oeuf said:

Jimbeaux said:

Corpulent Tosser said:

What I don't get about this is that it is not actually some Muslim(s) complaining, it is the club themselves who have asked a Muslim 'expert' if the lyrics are offensive. Why bother, it is just a song FFS.

I think that angry Muslims bombarded the club with emails after which the club management went to the Muslim expert to get an opinion.

Maybe not the best choice of words there jimbeaux

Ah, I see what you mean! Edited for peacefulness:

"I think that angry Muslims gently contacted the club with emails after which the club management went to the Muslim expert to get an opinion."

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 6th August 16:21

[Slothario]

Why did'nt the club respond to the angry outpourings simply thus - 'What exactly is the problem with the lyrics ? Until you convince us they're insulting we'll tell our fans to sing louder next week. Now fk off we're busy !'

[AndrewW-G]

If you think there's a fuss now, just wait until the illustrated song book comes out

[Spiritual_Beggar]

patmahe said:

Getting pretty fed up of this sort of thing, between teddy bears and cartoons and now this. I'm sure most Muslims couldn't care less about this stuff and its the few extreme Muslims that are causing this unecessary fuss.

The thing is this type of action eventually leads to a widespread view that all Muslims think like this and breeds hatred and contempt.

I'm an Irish Catholic and I think I can safely say that we have been the butt of many jokes, or cartoons over the years. However not once have I complained about the use of the word 'Paddy' or piss-taking at the expense of the Irish, because no-one takes is seriously, its only a bit of humour and if anyone was to dispense these types of insults in a serious manner then they would be seen as the biggoted idiots they clearly are.

Its getting to a point where non-muslim people are afraid to talk about muslims in case they are seen as racist. This is a situation I'm sure no-one, least of all the muslim community wants to see. It splits society in two, when what we should all be working towards is further integration and tolerance for one anothers beliefs/views.

Well Said!