"Why so serious?"

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kenny Chim 4

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1,604 posts

264 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-237...
It appears that there's an increasing movement to tarnish the US President as a 'socialist' in America.

This disparaging allegation does not have the same implication there that it does here (ie pinko, closet commie, ensure cash earned by those, whose nose is at the grindstone, is distributed to the work-shy, the feckless and the non-contributing immigrant).

No, in the US it has echoes of communist Russia.

Is the honeymoon over as folk realise they have voted for another Clinton?

350GT

73,668 posts

261 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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What? The same Clinton who reduced national debt?

kenny Chim 4

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1,604 posts

264 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Yes, that Clinton who forced lenders such as Fanny Mae et al to provide mortgages to thousands of low income (in a lot of cases read no income) families and individuals who had no hope in hell of repaying a mortgage. His government refused new branch openings etc, unless they did.

We all know what happened after that as banks bought up those toxic debts...

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

223 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Lets face it the guy has a massive amount of expectation to live up to, whatever he does will be wrong with at least 50% of the US. From the tiny amount I've heard about his policy direction, he sounds very much like a US version of Blair . . . . . . .

KANEIT

2,680 posts

225 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Plenty of hatred and bile, doom-mongering and scare tactics. It sounds like the propaganda of some crackpot dictatorship, but it's supposedly the opinions from citizens of one of the most civilised and free nations in the world.
'Socialist Limeys'?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That made me chuckle.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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kenny Chim 4 said:
Yes, that Clinton who forced lenders such as Fanny Mae et al to provide mortgages to thousands of low income (in a lot of cases read no income) families and individuals who had no hope in hell of repaying a mortgage. His government refused new branch openings etc, unless they did.

We all know what happened after that as banks bought up those toxic debts...
If you check your history books you'll see that Clinton ran a budget surplus for a number of years, not something Bush could boast.

kenny Chim 4

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1,604 posts

264 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Perhaps Fittster (during boom times, now passed remember) but the following sums up the gist of my allegation of weakness at the heart of that Clinton administration::
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-235...

And the world turns and turns again as socialists world wide try to take and re-distribute honest monies to those who have neither earned it, nor, it could be argued, deserve it.

Yes, life situations can change in a flash but, as proven in the article above, to fast-track the poor up a social sphere, when it inevitably ends in tears, has implications on us all.

Colonial

13,553 posts

211 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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So he ran a more conservative ecnonomy than the following administration, but he is still an evil socialist out to destroy the economy.

Que?

turbobloke

106,899 posts

266 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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BO is still inexperienced regardless of the hype and he's hot on green, probably for the personal PR boost unless he's more stupid than he'd like us to think. On that score experience shows every green job created destroys more than two others in real world rather than dreamworld ecnomics. That's good?

The Spanish government’s renewable energy initiatives have destroyed 2.2 jobs for every new “green” job created, concludes a new study by economics professor Gabriel Calzada of King Juan Carlos University in Madrid. Calzada says American jobs will suffer the same fate if the United States similarly attempts to promote renewable energy at the expense of conventional energy sources.

Mandy and Meltdown are on the same ecohype trip over here - based ultimately on the same socialist disease, aka egalitarian delusion. We'll get the same result.

turbobloke

106,899 posts

266 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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U.S. Senator James Inhofe (R-Okla.), Ranking Member of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, today (04 Aug) commented on the economic analysis of Waxman Markey by the Energy Information Administration.

“Once again, government economic analysis of a cap and trade tax bill shows Americans will pay more at the pump, in their homes, and in many cases, with their jobs - all for virtually no affect on the climate,” Senator Inhofe said. “It’s interesting that no matter what the costs, polls continue to show Americans unwilling to pay anything to fight global warming.

JagLover

43,586 posts

241 months

Wednesday 5th August 2009
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There a number of reasons why Americans might be unhappy with Obama. His health care reforms look like they will be costly and will be partly paid for by increased taxes on the rich. There are hints that he will go back on his promise not to increase taxation on the middle classes and recently he clumsily waded into a race row like some black activist not the president.

Oratory and the novelty of a black preseint are one thing. Policies and beliefs another.