Lets whammy the motorist again
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Daily Telegraph
The country’s first “workplace parking levy” will come into force in Nottingham in 2012 and is likely to be adopted by other councils.
Under the scheme, any firm with 11 or more staff parking spaces will be charged £250 a year for each. That cost could rise to £350 within two years.
Employers would be free to pass the cost on to their staff. An estimated 40,000 commuters in Nottingham drive to work and some businesses have threatened to leave the area if the scheme is introduced.
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k off Labour
The country’s first “workplace parking levy” will come into force in Nottingham in 2012 and is likely to be adopted by other councils.
Under the scheme, any firm with 11 or more staff parking spaces will be charged £250 a year for each. That cost could rise to £350 within two years.
Employers would be free to pass the cost on to their staff. An estimated 40,000 commuters in Nottingham drive to work and some businesses have threatened to leave the area if the scheme is introduced.
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k off LabourI once temp'd for Nottingham City Council. It would have been less-frustrating to drive behind a 40er from 9 to 5 every day.
To get something simple done, installing some lights along a path, for example, took such a vast amount of bureaucracy and non-progress that you despaired as you felt your precious tax money vanishing into a black hole of incompetence.
I was complaining about speed humps to one of the people that worked there once, after a particularly stressful drive that involved having to slow to 5mph to negotiate each 'bump'. His reply was that he sympathised, and couldn't wait until speed was continuously monitored and fines dispensed automatically if you broke the limit by even 1mph. I protested and was looked on like a member of a bizarre and dangerous cult.
To get something simple done, installing some lights along a path, for example, took such a vast amount of bureaucracy and non-progress that you despaired as you felt your precious tax money vanishing into a black hole of incompetence.
I was complaining about speed humps to one of the people that worked there once, after a particularly stressful drive that involved having to slow to 5mph to negotiate each 'bump'. His reply was that he sympathised, and couldn't wait until speed was continuously monitored and fines dispensed automatically if you broke the limit by even 1mph. I protested and was looked on like a member of a bizarre and dangerous cult.
Cunch of ... The cupids also have a committee for a 'gween campus' 
RDE said:
I once temp'd for Nottingham City Council. It would have been less-frustrating to drive behind a 40er from 9 to 5 every day.
To get something simple done, installing some lights along a path, for example, took such a vast amount of bureaucracy and non-progress that you despaired as you felt your precious tax money vanishing into a black hole of incompetence.
I was complaining about speed humps to one of the people that worked there once, after a particularly stressful drive that involved having to slow to 5mph to negotiate each 'bump'. His reply was that he sympathised, and couldn't wait until speed was continuously monitored and fines dispensed automatically if you broke the limit by even 1mph. I protested and was looked on like a member of a bizarre and dangerous cult.
Yes, I worked for the IT dept at Essex County Council, and watch as money went down the drain. Did the staff at Nottingham take up the custom of 6 months off full pay with depression?To get something simple done, installing some lights along a path, for example, took such a vast amount of bureaucracy and non-progress that you despaired as you felt your precious tax money vanishing into a black hole of incompetence.
I was complaining about speed humps to one of the people that worked there once, after a particularly stressful drive that involved having to slow to 5mph to negotiate each 'bump'. His reply was that he sympathised, and couldn't wait until speed was continuously monitored and fines dispensed automatically if you broke the limit by even 1mph. I protested and was looked on like a member of a bizarre and dangerous cult.
guy_spyder550 said:
Where I work can't see how they would pass it on staff. Staff/I would just park in the local housing estate side streets for nothing instead. Then they would have a large corporate site with hundreds of bays just left empty.
Alternatively companies will move lock, stock and barrel to more enlightened areas or allow home working instead.Either way - the councils implementing this will cause hardship to industries servicing the workers (particularly food at lunch)
guy_spyder550 said:
Where I work can't see how they would pass it on staff. Staff/I would just park in the local housing estate side streets for nothing instead. Then they would have a large corporate site with hundreds of bays just left empty.
Do that and the local council WILL introduce a residents parking scheme: these scum will not be deprived of their pound of flesh.
WARNING: Force 10 rant approaching, take cover!So daft Nu Labia, anit-car planning laws on both residential and commercial property have made many recently developed business parks and housing estates into single lane parking hell. Insufficient parking forces people to - often dangerously and to the detriment of everyone's convenience and quality of life - park on access roads or in turning areas in dead-ends and only now are these tw@ts realising that yet again there are unintended downsides to their Stalinist policies.
Taxing parking spaces will make this situation even worse for workers and is an extremely tax-on-a-tax. Business rates - around 50% (yes 50%!) of rental value if those lucky enough not to have to pay them are wondering - are already crippling and a major disincentive to enterprise and employment.
Yes by all means encourage public transport, car sharing, the use of cycles and the provisions of proper bike parking, but grow up and understand that in the real global economy, the UK's GDP cannot afford us to be without motorised transport and the car in particular.
thinfourth2 said:
I wonder how many companys will just leave the town
Talk a walk to most high streets and see how many have already left.I don't think you can overemphasise the punitive rates that businesses pay, especially on high streets. Applied to a local house, it would mean a 3 bed semi would pay a similar council tax (rates by another name - for ersidential property) to a 7 bed mansion with swimming pool and several acres of grounds.
Yet businesses are not entitled to many of the services that domestic ratepayers enjoy; waste collection being the primary case.
Governments get away with this, for a while (until businesses begin folded as they are now) because - especially when Labour is in power - people have their hand out and don't think where the money comes from. It's only once things begin to unravel that they realise why but, as is so often the case, the average person on the street is blissfully ignorant of the tax burden paid by their employer, if indeed they work at all.
This is symptomatic of the authorities' tendency to slap charges on every aspect of motoring. In the absence of a reliable public transport system it's just a way of extorting money form people. The arguments about congestion busting are nonsense as they don't expect anyone to give up their cars, they're just after the income.
However £250 a year doesn't really sound like that big a deal. I pay £1100 a year to park at my station and over £3000 a year for my season ticket. The trains are on strike today (so much for public transport) which meant I had to drive all the way in, and will have to pay the best part of twenty quid for a day's parking.
If I could park at my workplace for £1 a day, I really wouldn't complain about it.
However £250 a year doesn't really sound like that big a deal. I pay £1100 a year to park at my station and over £3000 a year for my season ticket. The trains are on strike today (so much for public transport) which meant I had to drive all the way in, and will have to pay the best part of twenty quid for a day's parking.
If I could park at my workplace for £1 a day, I really wouldn't complain about it.
nickbee said:
This is symptomatic of the authorities' tendency to slap charges on every aspect of motoring. In the absence of a reliable public transport system it's just a way of extorting money form people. The arguments about congestion busting are nonsense as they don't expect anyone to give up their cars, they're just after the income.
However £250 a year doesn't really sound like that big a deal. I pay £1100 a year to park at my station and over £3000 a year for my season ticket. The trains are on strike today (so much for public transport) which meant I had to drive all the way in, and will have to pay the best part of twenty quid for a day's parking.
If I could park at my workplace for £1 a day, I really wouldn't complain about it.
ffsHowever £250 a year doesn't really sound like that big a deal. I pay £1100 a year to park at my station and over £3000 a year for my season ticket. The trains are on strike today (so much for public transport) which meant I had to drive all the way in, and will have to pay the best part of twenty quid for a day's parking.
If I could park at my workplace for £1 a day, I really wouldn't complain about it.
why should people pay to park at work?
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