Policeman chastised for calling a violent criminal a C**T
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From this morning's Torygraph. Apparently a 'serial offender' was arrested after a 'stand-off', during which he held a WPC at knifepoint, barricaded himself in his kitchen and threatened to kill any policeman trying to enter, and resisted arrest when finally nabbed, all the way back to the cells.
When in cells, he overhears a Sergeant describe him as a
(fair comment, if a teensy bit unprofessional), and now he's suddenly the victim. Sergeant given telling-off and sent on some politically-correct re-education bks course. Career criminal planning to sue.
WTF!? etc
When in cells, he overhears a Sergeant describe him as a
(fair comment, if a teensy bit unprofessional), and now he's suddenly the victim. Sergeant given telling-off and sent on some politically-correct re-education bks course. Career criminal planning to sue.WTF!? etc
The thing is who else heard him call him a . Would it not have been the sarge against the crim.
Ah... but then we go down the honesty of the police route so I suppose that by owning up says a lot about him.
Still an awful situation when a crim gets huffy for being called a......Everythings fked
. Would it not have been the sarge against the crim.Ah... but then we go down the honesty of the police route so I suppose that by owning up says a lot about him.
Still an awful situation when a crim gets huffy for being called a
......Everythings fkedShadownINja said:
you can make someone feel utterly st without so much as a single rude word or offensive comment. Maybe I should teach the police.
For this to work you assume that the criminal has A) An intelect capacle of comprehending and B) Any form of self respect. t without so much as a single rude word or offensive comment. Maybe I should teach the police.Sadly in the cases where you want to kick them in the b
ks repeatedly and call them a these will probably be absent.Mr_annie_vxr said:
johnfm said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
Standard practice for officers to be disciplined for such matters. Officer I know was convicted at court for calling someone a 'little st' when he was arresting him and the lad gave him a mouthful.
convicted for what offence, exactly?t' when he was arresting him and the lad gave him a mouthful. Surprised that they were able to prove that the little s
t would have suffered harassment, alarm or distress..unless the full statement was "I'm going to crack you in the face with this big stick, you little st'Oddly, I've been in the High Court when a case of a copper who basically called a scrote a w***r and smacked his head off the wall was against the scrote who had punched the copper and called him a pig. The answer given was, a Plague on both your houses.......
If we are in the position where an officer may not swear at someone without a S5 then surely the reverse must also be true.... And clearly it is not.
If we are in the position where an officer may not swear at someone without a S5 then surely the reverse must also be true.... And clearly it is not.
Oakey said:
So effectively you could cause an officer a lot of trouble by saying they called you a nasty name?
It happens quite a lot. Thats why you find a few officers who no longer bother for fear of complaint.
Me I just watch my P's and Q's however that doesn't stop vexatious complaints which most these days are. There is no offence of making a false compliant.
Mr_annie_vxr said:
There is no offence of making a false compliant.
So you find me doing something wrong and arrest me, when we get to the custody suite I tell the desk seargant that you called me an effing c**t before any witnesses were present. How much of a PITA would that cause you?
Chris_w666 said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
There is no offence of making a false compliant.
So you find me doing something wrong and arrest me, when we get to the custody suite I tell the desk seargant that you called me an effing c**t before any witnesses were present. How much of a PITA would that cause you?
I would get a reg 9 and be investigated.
If on the balance of probabilities they felt there was a case I could look at a criminal charge or straight to discipline where the outcome could be gross misconduct.
Mr_annie_vxr said:
Chris_w666 said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
There is no offence of making a false compliant.
So you find me doing something wrong and arrest me, when we get to the custody suite I tell the desk seargant that you called me an effing c**t before any witnesses were present. How much of a PITA would that cause you?
I would get a reg 9 and be investigated.
If on the balance of probabilities they felt there was a case I could look at a criminal charge or straight to discipline where the outcome could be gross misconduct.
I do the job simply as I wanted to do something rather than moan about it. You can't change or improve things from the sidelines.
If complaints happen they happen. I've had two that have resulted in advice / warnings where I didn't do anything wrong but that is the way of the job.
You wanted an accountable police force this is the result.
If complaints happen they happen. I've had two that have resulted in advice / warnings where I didn't do anything wrong but that is the way of the job.
You wanted an accountable police force this is the result.
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