New Labour tax on middle classes...

New Labour tax on middle classes...

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NiceCupOfTea

Original Poster:

25,305 posts

257 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Apologies if it's a repost but it's a story dated today and nothing in NP&E about it today.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1202173/Se...

Yes, yes, I know it's the DM but taxes based on:

  • views
  • parking
  • garage
  • conservatories
  • patios
  • quiet roads FFS!?
I paid more for a house with parking and on a quiet road, I am paying out to have a garage built, why the hell do the govt. deserve money for that? ranting

What a cunch of bunts.

Hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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If you trash your neighborhood and make lots of noise, your bills will be lower.


Nice...







///M3

303 posts

189 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Labour suck. Big time.

Diderot

7,951 posts

198 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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furious

Thieving tossers of the first rank. The election cannot come soon enough so we can rid the country of these hateful, envy-ridden, biggoted, villainous scum bags.


Hedders

24,460 posts

253 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Makes you wonder if they have offices full of people scanning google earth, to see what we have in our gardens....


unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Relax. After the next election most of the Labour drones who think up this sort of ste will be on the dole. It's just another reason to vote Tory.

Minicity

1,009 posts

237 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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When the Tories introduced Council Tax - I assume it was on the basis that individual house values would be reviewed at some point.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

217 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Remind me why the poll tax was bad?

Diderot

7,951 posts

198 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
Remind me why the poll tax was bad?
Because lorry dwelling soapdodgers with dogs on ropes would have to put themselves on the electoral register.


FourWheelDrift

89,431 posts

290 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
Remind me why the poll tax was bad?
As you know it wasn't, it was just a fixed tax per adult resident, but there was a reduction for those with lower household income. Each person was to pay for the services provided in their community.

The only reason it was thought to be bad was because the media made it out to be to sell their papers and the great unwashed who usually had big families to get extra benefits thought they would have to paying more. Paying more because they were using more services, more refuse collection and other things seemed a very fair way of doing it over a single home owner.

Zad

12,749 posts

242 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Shock horror, houses in a nice neighbourhood, with more facilities and a good view are worth more, and have a higher rateable value. If you accept the conjecture that poorer people should pay less, then it surely follows that richer people have to pay proportionately more.

TeamD

4,917 posts

238 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Zad said:
Shock horror, houses in a nice neighbourhood, with more facilities and a good view are worth more, and have a higher rateable value. If you accept the conjecture that poorer people should pay less, then it surely follows that richer people have to pay proportionately more.
Don't accept. Envyish.

Funk

26,511 posts

215 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Zad said:
Shock horror, houses in a nice neighbourhood, with more facilities and a good view are worth more, and have a higher rateable value. If you accept the conjecture that poorer people should pay less, then it surely follows that richer people have to pay proportionately more.
They already do - it's called 'the purchase price'. Labour want to tax you (annually, let's not forget) just for having bought a place in a nicer area.

Typical Socialist Envy Tax. They really are scrambling for cash, forgetting that we're not bottomless financial pits.

ShadownINja

77,398 posts

288 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Just when I get over despising the government...

Jasandjules

70,420 posts

235 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Zad said:
If you accept the conjecture that poorer people should pay less, then it surely follows that richer people have to pay proportionately more.
The value of one's house may not reflect how "rich" or otherwise they are.

IN any event, why should how much money you make affect how much you should pay to use council services? It may well be the case that those who earn more may use less of the council services, so why should they pay more to get less out?

I bought a house down a quiet street, with a nice view etc.. and that was all reflected in the purchase price. WTF has that got to do with the council tax for use of council services? I live on a private road, so the council don't even pay for repairs to my street.

Diderot

7,951 posts

198 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Zad said:
Shock horror, houses in a nice neighbourhood, with more facilities and a good view are worth more, and have a higher rateable value. If you accept the conjecture that poorer people should pay less, then it surely follows that richer people have to pay proportionately more.
They do pay less. Less in income tax, less in NI, less in council tax, less in stamp duty when buying, etc etc.


Marquis_Rex

7,377 posts

245 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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This is fking hillarious. rofl
It's like a comedy show- day by day.

I tell friends here in the USA about what is happening there and they think I'm making it up!
I want to hear again from those who have emigrated elsewhere that all countries are the same once you've settled rolleyes

Minicity

1,009 posts

237 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Funk said:
Zad said:
Shock horror, houses in a nice neighbourhood, with more facilities and a good view are worth more, and have a higher rateable value. If you accept the conjecture that poorer people should pay less, then it surely follows that richer people have to pay proportionately more.
They already do - it's called 'the purchase price'. Labour want to tax you (annually, let's not forget) just for having bought a place in a nicer area.

Typical Socialist Envy Tax. They really are scrambling for cash, forgetting that we're not bottomless financial pits.
The Tories introduced Council Tax.

Funk

26,511 posts

215 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Minicity said:
Funk said:
Zad said:
Shock horror, houses in a nice neighbourhood, with more facilities and a good view are worth more, and have a higher rateable value. If you accept the conjecture that poorer people should pay less, then it surely follows that richer people have to pay proportionately more.
They already do - it's called 'the purchase price'. Labour want to tax you (annually, let's not forget) just for having bought a place in a nicer area.

Typical Socialist Envy Tax. They really are scrambling for cash, forgetting that we're not bottomless financial pits.
The Tories introduced Council Tax.
...which if you read the article, is now being carved up according to 'how nice your view is'. You've missed the point somewhat, chap.

groucho

12,134 posts

252 months

Sunday 26th July 2009
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Will they pay this tax. I suspect they have nice pads.