Harry Pothead

[HOGEPH]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8161154....

"A Harry Potter actor has been told to carry out community service after he admitted growing cannabis plants in his mother's north-west London home."

"He was arrested after police found pictures of the plants on his camera."

First rule of doing something dodgy, do not provide your own prosecution material!

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HOGEPH said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8161154....

"A Harry Potter actor has been told to carry out community service after he admitted growing cannabis plants in his mother's north-west London home."

"He was arrested after police found pictures of the plants on his camera."

First rule of doing something dodgy, do not provide your own prosecution material!

Yes, the boys clearly a twit.

Would like at least a passing mention of the illegal actions of the police here though - it's not against the law to take their photo, and they have no business pretending it is or demanding to see your photos of them.

[nonegreen]

fadeaway said:

HOGEPH said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8161154....

"A Harry Potter actor has been told to carry out community service after he admitted growing cannabis plants in his mother's north-west London home."

"He was arrested after police found pictures of the plants on his camera."

First rule of doing something dodgy, do not provide your own prosecution material!

Yes, the boys clearly a twit.

Would like at least a passing mention of the illegal actions of the police here though - it's not against the law to take their photo, and they have no business pretending it is or demanding to see your photos of them.

Yes but can you use reasonable force to stop them?

[OllieWinchester]

Daniel Radcliffe likes a toke does he not? Remember seeing some pics of him wandering around somewhere in America with eyes like pissholes in the snow.

Likes getting bummed too, by all accounts (allegedly)

[Buffalo]

Was it that simple? Boy takes photos of police, police take the hump and demand to see footage, arrest boy after "searching"..? What were the police doing that meant he could not photograph them..?

[fluffnik]

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

[Taita]

Are the homes of every arrestee searched?

Why was his house searched after he was nicked for something so small (shouldn't have been nicked in the first place imo), there must be more to it? Did he honk of green?

[Colonial]

God, it's only a bit of pot. Who cares in the scheme of things?

[andy_s]

Agree, fuss about nothing poor kid.

As an ex-plod, all I can say is that there are better things to be doing....

[Mr_annie_vxr]

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

He took a picture by some means or other and in some way or other and attracted the attention of the police and was carrying a knife and some drugs in him...

Once under arrest for those offences his house gets searched.

If your carrying a knife and drugs don't draw attention to yourself.

[Einion Yrth]

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

No but I deal quite frequently with a number of people who've been doing a bit of blow for upwards of 30 years and remain perfectly normal productive members of society. Your prejudice and brainwashing is showing.

[Tony*T3]

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

He took a picture by some means or other and in some way or other and attracted the attention of the police and was carrying a knife and some drugs in him...

Once under arrest for those offences his house gets searched.

If your carrying a knife and drugs don't draw attention to yourself.

Agreed, but on one point, is it illegal now to have a knife in your car? Does this come under the term 'carrying'? I have a lock knife in my laptop bag. Am I therefore guilty of a crime (serious question - I use the knife for work - its a swiss army type with many tools)

[Oakey]

Einion Yrth said:

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

No but I deal quite frequently with a number of people who've been doing a bit of blow for upwards of 30 years and remain perfectly normal productive members of society. Your prejudice and brainwashing is showing.

And I'll second that. You have to laugh, are the number of people who 'lose the plot' from a bit of weed exceeding those who 'lose the plot' every time they get pissed up each week then?

Put it this way, I know which user I'd rather face on a dark street.

ETA: Even the police are at it; http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Bl...

Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 22 July 12:33

[sleep envy]

OllieWinchester said:

Daniel Radcliffe likes a toke does he not?

no, I gave it up a while back

[MK4 Slowride]

Oakey said:

Einion Yrth said:

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

No but I deal quite frequently with a number of people who've been doing a bit of blow for upwards of 30 years and remain perfectly normal productive members of society. Your prejudice and brainwashing is showing.

And I'll second that. You have to laugh, are the number of people who 'lose the plot' from a bit of weed exceeding those who 'lose the plot' every time they get pissed up each week then?

Put it this way, I know which user I'd rather face on a dark street.

ETA: Even the police are at it; http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/blackpoolnews/Bl...

Edited by Oakey on Wednesday 22 July 12:33

There's a good song by 'The Streets' about the drinker 'vs' the smoker. Very apt.

It's easy to smoke a couple of spliffs a night in exactly the same way as you'd be able to have a couple of pints. Prohibition doesn't work.

[fluffnik]

Einion Yrth said:

Mr_annie_vxr said:

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

No but I deal quite frequently with a number of people who've been doing a bit of blow for upwards of 30 years and remain perfectly normal productive members of society.

We may know some of the same people.

[fluffnik]

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

Yes I do.

...booze is by far the worst culprit.

[Tiggsy]

goood use of the terrorism act...nicking a kid with a phone taking pictures!

[Mr_annie_vxr]

fluffnik said:

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

Yes I do.

...booze is by far the worst culprit.

Did I say it wasn't?

I deal with a lot of youngsters who are completely 'lost' due to their psychological addiction to cannabis.

To dismiss it as Alcohol has wider impacts is a stupid attitude to take.

I just hold the view that people who make out how great cannabis is with no comeback for anyone live in a different world and normaly have their own hidden agenda in terms of legalising their illegal activity and thus try to trivialise the true effects of cannabis.

[Mr_annie_vxr]

Einion Yrth said:

Mr_annie_vxr said:

fluffnik said:

I think the police behaviour with regard to the camera is far more worthy of legal sanction than growing some blow.

Then you don't deal with the people who have lost the plot due to the effects of drugs though.

No but I deal quite frequently with a number of people who've been doing a bit of blow for upwards of 30 years and remain perfectly normal productive members of society. Your prejudice and brainwashing is showing.

Your prejudice and lack of any wide world experience is showing.

I deal with whole swathes of society and many may be able to cope with a little bit every now and then, very many I deal with don't and cannot. There lives are blighted by their need to do cannabis every day and some of them are utterly psychologically fked and out of control due to their use of it.

I guarantee you I have met far far more people than you who use drugs of all kinds. Your focussing on your tiny cross section of people who may use it infrequently or even every day is not giving you the full story. To then label my wider experience of a personal nature of what I see first hand as brainwashing is to undermine any argument you have as like many others you fail to acknowledge the damage the drug causes.

For the record I knew a number of people who used ecstacy and cocaine when I was younger and some people I know now did until a few years ago and they too are well balanced individuals. I also met a lot of crack addicts most of whom blame their use of cannabis for introducing them to drugs and leaving the wanting more.

Alcohol is the worse drug of the lot but we have it and are stuck with it, the pro-media campaign for cannabis glosses over so many of the problems and to me loses its argument by failing to acknowledge the impact it has.

I ca think of two of my own brothers friends whose lives have been utterly destroyed by using cannabis every day over a period of years. One of whom had a promising life ahead and now spends much of his life convinced his parents are hiding in his cupboard or screaming in the street.