Unnecessary Death or Strong Message of Danger?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200692/Al...
Forget the 'poor' standard of the article;
This 22yr old died today because of severe liver damage. Had been a binge drinker since 13yrs old.
Is this an unnecessary death that could have been prevented by a transplant?
Or does this send a clear message about the dangers of alcohol abuse; in essence, making this kid a Martyr?
Personally, even though he was so young, I would question this kid being bumped up the que for a liver just because of his severity, when there are others that could benefit. As harsh as it sounds, he essentially brought this upon himself, and would have known the consequences of his drinking.
Remember, George Best was given a transplant, but he could not change his ways, and died just a year after his op.
What do you guys think?
Forget the 'poor' standard of the article;
This 22yr old died today because of severe liver damage. Had been a binge drinker since 13yrs old.
Is this an unnecessary death that could have been prevented by a transplant?
Or does this send a clear message about the dangers of alcohol abuse; in essence, making this kid a Martyr?
Personally, even though he was so young, I would question this kid being bumped up the que for a liver just because of his severity, when there are others that could benefit. As harsh as it sounds, he essentially brought this upon himself, and would have known the consequences of his drinking.
Remember, George Best was given a transplant, but he could not change his ways, and died just a year after his op.
What do you guys think?
Mum said:
'Gary didn't know what he was doing when he was 13,'
You need to be necking a lot of booze when young to get to that state at 22 - so what the f
k was she doing? Article says she "was working full time" - yeh - that'll be why most kids whose parents work full time are alcoholics from the age of 13 then. As much the feckless parent's fault as his.odyssey2200 said:
crofty1984 said:
Mum said:
'Gary didn't know what he was doing when he was 13,'
So then maybe, just maybe, HIS fkING MOTHER/FATHER SHOULD HAVE DONE SOME fkING PARENTING!Middle teens - 'Well, he's nearly at the legal age'
Late teens - 'he's an adult now'
Early twenties - dead.
Dogwatch said:
odyssey2200 said:
crofty1984 said:
Mum said:
'Gary didn't know what he was doing when he was 13,'
So then maybe, just maybe, HIS fkING MOTHER/FATHER SHOULD HAVE DONE SOME fkING PARENTING!Middle teens - Parental control still required
Late teens - Parental guidance in earlier years should of played its part and the lad should be aware of the pitfalls and consequences
Early twenties - would still be here rather than dead due to parental failure.
Not even a minor outrage, I'm afraid. No matter how PC and credit-happy we get- livers and all organs are things that the state will never be able to afford to just hand out. That said- what a way to blow your life. I look at guys younger than me who seem to have it all and thik I'm not doing so well sometimes, but fk me- sometimes it feels like getting to 28 without being killed in a war or pissing my life away on heroin/drink/chav wes is something to be surprised at.
k me- sometimes it feels like getting to 28 without being killed in a war or pissing my life away on heroin/drink/chav wes is something to be surprised at.What annoys me is that she says, "You can get a bottle of whiskey for £7 now."
Yes love, you can. Don't fking bh about cheap booze and spoil it for the rest of us who're capable of not drinking ourselves to liver damage. No doubt this will start calls for the price of booze to be increased, as if that will magically solve the fking problem.
st mother, st son. End result? Unsurprising. Fair? Yes.
Next.
Yes love, you can. Don't f
king bh about cheap booze and spoil it for the rest of us who're capable of not drinking ourselves to liver damage. No doubt this will start calls for the price of booze to be increased, as if that will magically solve the fking problem.s
t mother, st son. End result? Unsurprising. Fair? Yes.Next.
Some years ago there was a guy in Manchester refused a third by pass opp, because he carried on smoking after the second one.
I don't have aproblem with this, we gave up universel free health care years ago (Optical and denistry for example).But there is need is for people to know the rules in advance, say by pass op on the NHS then you have to give up smoking, tummy tuck you have to loose weight, or you don't get a second.
I don't have aproblem with this, we gave up universel free health care years ago (Optical and denistry for example).But there is need is for people to know the rules in advance, say by pass op on the NHS then you have to give up smoking, tummy tuck you have to loose weight, or you don't get a second.
dont know if any of you have lived in close proximity to an alcoholic, before I did I very much had the "tough st, sort yourself out" mentality.
Its really nowhere near as simple as that and is incredibly difficult not just for the person but for those around them.
They very often do want to get better but the booze has such a hold over them and is so readily accessable that its extremely difficult for it to happen.
t, sort yourself out" mentality. Its really nowhere near as simple as that and is incredibly difficult not just for the person but for those around them.
They very often do want to get better but the booze has such a hold over them and is so readily accessable that its extremely difficult for it to happen.
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