North Korean Defector Interview - Interesting

[Jimbeaux]

He left in 2003. He was a banker. His description of "Two seperate economies" is very telling:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/02/north-k...

[Jimbeaux]

Shameless bump!

[Jimbeaux]

Guam said:

I Can think of a few bankers who we could send over to replace him if they would like

A few that could teach them more dirty tricks than they ever knew....those type?

[FM]

I`m not sure how it will work but since Obama has frozen the assets of suspect NK corporations & front companies which deal with their suspect exports, it will still depend on how much of the operation lies stateside. China,Burma & others have to do likewise to totally strangle his military arms smuggling sideline. I see the cargo vessel that was being tracked has turned around & is pissing about in the bay of Korea.

[AndrewW-G]

Whilst kim jong is obviously as corrupt as they get, i wonder what the government that will inevitably replace him will be like. It hasn’t worked out too well in any of the other countries where outside influence has helped with a regime change

[tinman0]

AndrewW-G said:

Whilst kim jong is obviously as corrupt as they get, i wonder what the government that will inevitably replace him will be like. It hasn’t worked out too well in any of the other countries where outside influence has helped with a regime change

Worked ok in Germany and Japan.

[Zod]

Thanks. Very interesting.

[Zod]

tinman0 said:

AndrewW-G said:

Whilst kim jong is obviously as corrupt as they get, i wonder what the government that will inevitably replace him will be like. It hasn’t worked out too well in any of the other countries where outside influence has helped with a regime change

Worked ok in Germany and Japan.

quite!

[AndrewW-G]

tinman0 said:

AndrewW-G said:

Whilst kim jong is obviously as corrupt as they get, i wonder what the government that will inevitably replace him will be like. It hasn’t worked out too well in any of the other countries where outside influence has helped with a regime change

Worked ok in Germany and Japan.

Yes the Berlin wall etc was a great outcome.............. And the Japanese change is rather debatable given the retention of the Japanese government and imperial house of Japan following the surrender and subsequent occupation in 1945. Both of course being regime change following a war (and the democratic processes of both countries remained in tact)

[Zod]

AndrewW-G said:

tinman0 said:

AndrewW-G said:

Whilst kim jong is obviously as corrupt as they get, i wonder what the government that will inevitably replace him will be like. It hasn’t worked out too well in any of the other countries where outside influence has helped with a regime change

Worked ok in Germany and Japan.

Yes the Berlin wall etc was a great outcome.............. And the Japanese change is rather debatable given the retention of the Japanese government and imperial house of Japan following the surrender and subsequent occupation in 1945. Both of course being regime change following a war (and the democratic processes of both countries remained in tact)

if you don't believe that Germany (well 70% of it) and Japan were better off in all ways within ten years of the war, you have a very odd view of history. Fast forward forty-five years and the East German aberration had been removed.

[Jimbeaux]

FM said:

I`m not sure how it will work but since Obama has frozen the assets of suspect NK corporations & front companies which deal with their suspect exports, it will still depend on how much of the operation lies stateside. China,Burma & others have to do likewise to totally strangle his military arms smuggling sideline. I see the cargo vessel that was being tracked has turned around & is pissing about in the bay of Korea.

The ship turned around? Interesting. When the day comes that Kim cannot provide luxuries to his inner circle, trouble will come.

Edited by Jimbeaux on Saturday 4th July 22:55

[Jimbeaux]

AndrewW-G said:

tinman0 said:

AndrewW-G said:

Whilst kim jong is obviously as corrupt as they get, i wonder what the government that will inevitably replace him will be like. It hasn’t worked out too well in any of the other countries where outside influence has helped with a regime change

Worked ok in Germany and Japan.

Yes the Berlin wall etc was a great outcome.............. And the Japanese change is rather debatable given the retention of the Japanese government and imperial house of Japan following the surrender and subsequent occupation in 1945. Both of course being regime change following a war (and the democratic processes of both countries remained in tact)

Pre war Japan did not have a democratic process, at least not a real one. Remember, the allies (McArthur)wrote the constitution they use today. The full occupations were short, in both Germany and Japan. Bases in Frankfurt or Okinawa now are not occupations.

[FM]

Came across some interesting papers which include a long term look at North Korea by the CISAC..

http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=12590&...

which can be read here..

http://books.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=12590#d...

The U.S. National Academies (NAS) and the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS), building on a foundation of years of interacademy cooperation, conducted a joint project to identify what the international nuclear security environment will be in the future.