Hull chav speaks sense

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elster

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17,517 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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On Look North News just interviewed a few people who have been on jobseekers.

They have to go to these "centres of education" to help train them, yet they end up doing crosswords and treasure hunts.

The chav said

"why don't they send us out working in the community in exchange for jobseekers?"

It seems everyone, including those claiming job seekers think they should be doing something. So why not?

KANEIT

2,680 posts

225 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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I didn't see the report but what makes you assume he's a Chav? Wrong clothes? Accent? Out of work?

Still I agree we need to make use of those who are out of work, keeping the ones that want to work in the loop and ensuring those that don't want to work cannot get away with their idle ways.
Self worth, responsibility, givers gain and all that stuff.

Dogwatch

6,263 posts

228 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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Thought this was an ironic reference to Prescott's gleeful video about the East Coast line being nationalised. smile

What a tt!

Graham E

12,841 posts

192 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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I've held thios point of view in pubs for years. If jobseekers meant 2 days a week cleaning up the craphole that is our fair island, we'd have a world less litter, and thre benefit scammers would be working 7 day weeks. not only that, but if jobseekers were assigned appropriate roles, councils could have a lot of skilled or semi skilled work done for very little money - building work, gardening, creation of flyers, translations etc etc.

It also narks me this "spenmd our way out of rtouble" regeime - at least do it peroperly like the Krauts did, they spent their way out of a rescession, and now have one of the finest motorway networks on the planet. Unfortunately, my opinion is matterless, as I'll never run the country - I'm just too crap at expense forms.

elster

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17,517 posts

216 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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KANEIT said:
I didn't see the report but what makes you assume he's a Chav? Wrong clothes? Accent? Out of work?

Still I agree we need to make use of those who are out of work, keeping the ones that want to work in the loop and ensuring those that don't want to work cannot get away with their idle ways.
Self worth, responsibility, givers gain and all that stuff.
Contrary to PH understanding a chav has always been someone who wears faux gold and a tracksuit with their tracksuit bottoms tucked into their socks.

Indeed if everyone on jobseekers had to do some hard work, they would soon be loking for a better paying job.

KANEIT

2,680 posts

225 months

Wednesday 1st July 2009
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elster said:
KANEIT said:
I didn't see the report but what makes you assume he's a Chav? Wrong clothes? Accent? Out of work?

Still I agree we need to make use of those who are out of work, keeping the ones that want to work in the loop and ensuring those that don't want to work cannot get away with their idle ways.
Self worth, responsibility, givers gain and all that stuff.
Contrary to PH understanding a chav has always been someone who wears faux gold and a tracksuit with their tracksuit bottoms tucked into their socks....
Leave Jimmy Saville alone.

AJS-

15,366 posts

242 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Why doesn't he just go out and do something useful himself? Didn't see the interview, but it strikes me as a sad state of affairs when people need to be told to do something in order to do it. Go and help your elderly neighbour clean their windows, go and wash some graffiti off a wall or tidy up some waste ground to make the place look nicer.

While it's sort of admirable that he feels he should be doing something useful for his money (well, normal seems like a better word, but inaccurate!) why does he need "them" to herd him into it?


Scraggles

7,619 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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maybe the chav does help people, can be damn sure that 99% of the out of work do not do anything useful

Colonial

13,553 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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We used to have a system called Work For the Dole. Basically, if you were just lazy you were forced to go and do Landcare, community gardening, things like that, in order to get your dole payments.

The bleeding heart lefties got all upset about it. Don't know why.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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AJS- said:
Why doesn't he just go out and do something useful himself?
I seem to recall that getting caught doing even voluntary unpaid work while claiming will see the axe brought to ones claim.

elster

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17,517 posts

216 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Einion Yrth said:
AJS- said:
Why doesn't he just go out and do something useful himself?
I seem to recall that getting caught doing even voluntary unpaid work while claiming will see the axe brought to ones claim.
Yeah I have heard about this stupidity as well.

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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elster said:
Contrary to PH understanding a chav has always been someone who wears faux gold and a tracksuit with their tracksuit bottoms tucked into their socks.
So Federer is a chav then by your rules...see his very ghey uniform at this Wombledum!!!

Apart from which the jobseeker spoke real sense.. in Switzerland all unemployed have, after a certain time, to do work for the local council/canton to pay for their benefits...

Edited by JMGS4 on Thursday 2nd July 09:21

elster

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Thursday 2nd July 2009
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JMGS4 said:
elster said:
Contrary to PH understanding a chav has always been someone who wears faux gold and a tracksuit with their tracksuit bottoms tucked into their socks.
So Federer is a chav then by your rules...see his very ghey uniform at this Wombledum!!!
Contrary to many of the middle classes new found word to descibe any common person. That is how it ha always been.

I have never seen federer tucking his tracksuit into his socks walking down the high street

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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elster said:
I have never seen federer tucking his tracksuit into his socks walking down the high street
was meant slightly tongue in cheek you know, old boy!! But still a very ghey suit! What the feck does Nike do in the fashion department? Think they certainly don't!

elster

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216 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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JMGS4 said:
elster said:
I have never seen federer tucking his tracksuit into his socks walking down the high street
was meant slightly tongue in cheek you know, old boy!! But still a very ghey suit! What the feck does Nike do in the fashion department? Think they certainly don't!
When you are number one I think you are allowed to have sparkly gold motifs

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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elster said:
JMGS4 said:
elster said:
I have never seen federer tucking his tracksuit into his socks walking down the high street
was meant slightly tongue in cheek you know, old boy!! But still a very ghey suit! What the feck does Nike do in the fashion department? Think they certainly don't!
When you are number one I think you are allowed to have sparkly gold motifs
And Swarowski leaping horses on your car radiator??? winkwinkwink

SleeperCell

5,591 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd July 2009
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Colonial said:
We used to have a system called Work For the Dole. Basically, if you were just lazy you were forced to go and do Landcare, community gardening, things like that, in order to get your dole payments.

The bleeding heart lefties got all upset about it. Don't know why.
I went through work for the dole few years back, just doing research for the bureau of meteorology, it was great and the experience and contacts I made actually proved quite useful later on. Never really understood what the objections were to it, the only people who didn't like it were those who didn't want to work in the first place. The only thing I didn't like was having to wear the badge saying 'work for the dole', which made you feel a bit stupid, they could have at least come up with some newspeak type name for it like they for everything else at centrelink.