College bars visitor wearing veil

College bars visitor wearing veil

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LeoZwalf

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2,802 posts

236 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8125...

Story about nothing? I'm not sure. Well done to the college for upholding their rules and well done to those who showed respect and removed their veils.

When I were a lad, we visited a Muslim Mosque, Hindu Temple and a Sikh Gurdwara as part of normal RE in secondary school. They have rules (shoes off, cover head etc) which we abided by... and nobody ever even considered keeping their shoes on "because they have a right to wear shoes".


elster

17,517 posts

216 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Where is the story?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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elster said:
Where is the story?
Within the link...

HTH...

elster

17,517 posts

216 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
elster said:
Where is the story?
Within the link...

HTH...
I was meaning it is a non story.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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elster said:
mybrainhurts said:
elster said:
Where is the story?
Within the link...

HTH...
I was meaning it is a non story.
Sorry, I was confused when you didn't say it's a non story....smile

angryS3owner

15,855 posts

235 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I was getting quite angry hearing about this on the radio this morning, sounds like a fuss over nothing all kicked up by this teacher. She was visiting somewhere so she should abide by their rules, end of story.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I thought it was a non story...what's going on?

grumbledoak

31,763 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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I had to read that twice to work out how it even made the news!

This would appear to be the relevant bit:
Article said:
A spokesman for the Ramadhan Foundation said the women's decision to wear the veils should be recognised.
So, the veiled teacher is trying to make a story of it via some 'Foundation'. Silly cow. I would not expect to enter a mosque without removing my shoes.

968

12,000 posts

254 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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LeoZwalf said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8125...

Story about nothing? I'm not sure. Well done to the college for upholding their rules and well done to those who showed respect and removed their veils.

When I were a lad, we visited a Muslim Mosque, Hindu Temple and a Sikh Gurdwara as part of normal RE in secondary school. They have rules (shoes off, cover head etc) which we abided by... and nobody ever even considered keeping their shoes on "because they have a right to wear shoes".
Quite right too.

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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what school did they come from - how can the teacher and pupils learn with veils on there or did they just have them on for the day trip if men etc were around? religion + schools = bad

hahithestevieboy

845 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Seems to me like they did recognise her descision to wear the veil. But she still wasnt welcome whilst wearing it because they considered wearing it to be rude. She declined to remove it so they declined to welcome her. Obviously she would rather decline to enter rather than take it off. Her descision also and respected by the people she was visiting.

The point about wearing a shoes in a mosque is very apt and goes both ways.

I'll bet she explored all sorts of avenues to get some publicity for her outrage and to get the people that refused to bend to her will in serious trouble. Petty little coward.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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These kids who wear veils....

How do the schools know who is sitting exams...?

angryS3owner

15,855 posts

235 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
These kids who wear veils....

How do the schools know who is sitting exams...?
The knobjockey on the radio this morning seemed to imply that they don't actually wear the veils at school in class etc. and got rather defensive / vague when being pushed.

Religion is such a fking waste of space / time / money / blood.

Mojooo

12,976 posts

186 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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hahithestevieboy said:


I'll bet she explored all sorts of avenues to get some publicity for her outrage and to get the people that refused to bend to her will in serious trouble. Petty little coward.
How do you know it was the woman who went to the press- the only person doing the talking seems to be the principal.

Invisible man

39,731 posts

290 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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mybrainhurts said:
I thought it was a non story...what's going on?
not much else..........apparently

grumbledoak

31,763 posts

239 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Mojooo said:
How do you know it was the woman who went to the press- the only person doing the talking seems to be the principal.
Naive. This is a non-story for the college, not something they would issue a press release over. The woman will have gone to the press, probably via the 'Foundation' named in the article.

hahithestevieboy

845 posts

220 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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grumbledoak said:
Mojooo said:
How do you know it was the woman who went to the press- the only person doing the talking seems to be the principal.
Naive. This is a non-story for the college, not something they would issue a press release over. The woman will have gone to the press, probably via the 'Foundation' named in the article.
Agreed, although it could have been blown out of all proportion after a throw away comment at mosque or at home etc etc...

Somehow I doubt it though. I suspect that many veil wearers (the ones that do it by choice at least) are fairly militant in their attitudes and probably wanted to teach the school a lesson for messing with her.

Oversteer

247 posts

264 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Can anyone tell me how id cards are supposed to work when someone is
wearing all this stuff? I guess they'll be effectively exempt.

Mojooo

12,976 posts

186 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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grumbledoak said:
Mojooo said:
How do you know it was the woman who went to the press- the only person doing the talking seems to be the principal.
Naive. This is a non-story for the college, not something they would issue a press release over. The woman will have gone to the press, probably via the 'Foundation' named in the article.
Well, thats how it NORMALLY works no doubt, but what if the principal or someone else at the school wants to make a point? i.e get people talking about what a trouble maker the veil wearer was etc.

Muntu

7,650 posts

205 months

Tuesday 30th June 2009
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Mojooo said:
grumbledoak said:
Mojooo said:
How do you know it was the woman who went to the press- the only person doing the talking seems to be the principal.
Naive. This is a non-story for the college, not something they would issue a press release over. The woman will have gone to the press, probably via the 'Foundation' named in the article.
Well, thats how it NORMALLY works no doubt, but what if the principal or someone else at the school wants to make a point? i.e get people talking about what a trouble maker the veil wearer was etc.
It wouldn't have made the news if she had removed it.