Fat bint needs taxpayer to fund her weight loss

Fat bint needs taxpayer to fund her weight loss

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audidoody

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8,597 posts

262 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Let the urine-boiling commence:

"At 15 years old and 33 stone, Georgia Davis from south Wales was described by the Sun newspaper last year as Britain's fattest teenager.
She got a scholarship to a US fitness school and lost 14 stone, but midway through the course, her funding is in peril.
The school says she needs to do another year to lose weight and learn how to keep it off, but it can only fund her until Christmas.
The NHS, after initially refusing to pay the estimated £23,000 needed to complete the course, is now reviewing its funding decision.
Georgia spoke to BBC Radio 5 Live's Victoria Derbyshire show about how she came to weigh so much and the importance of completing the course"

Fill yer screens:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8114676.stm

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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I'm sorry but....WHY!!??


Why should the NHS/ taxpayer pay for something that is of her or her parent's own doing!!??


I just fail to see the sense in allowing things like this to be picked up by the NHS. It's taking the piss out of the whole reason the NHS exists!

I'm sure when the NHS was thought up, cases like this were not what they had in mind!!

RichBurley

2,432 posts

259 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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If it is successful, then provided the cost of this is less than the cost of obesity related medical care, then it has got to be worth it!

Besides, she probably would get a job, and would apply for DLA if she stays fat. At least she might actually be able to become a tax payer.

If the numbers add up, it can't be a bad thing.

TeamD

4,917 posts

238 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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To hell with it. Revoke her passport and refuse to let her back in.

Puggit

48,768 posts

254 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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RichBurley said:
If it is successful, then provided the cost of this is less than the cost of obesity related medical care, then it has got to be worth it!

Besides, she probably would get a job, and would apply for DLA if she stays fat. At least she might actually be able to become a tax payer.

If the numbers add up, it can't be a bad thing.
I'm with Rich on this.

If she has shown success so far, then the money isn't being p!ssed up a wall.

She is flying economy, right?

FourWheelDrift

89,426 posts

290 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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"and learn how to keep it off,"

How hard is it to learn not to eat every 15minutes.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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RichBurley said:
If it is successful, then provided the cost of this is less than the cost of obesity related medical care, then it has got to be worth it!

Besides, she probably would get a job, and would apply for DLA if she stays fat. At least she might actually be able to become a tax payer.

If the numbers add up, it can't be a bad thing.
She should be paying for her own obesity care. The government didn't make her fat. Neither did I. So why are we paying to make her thin?

The point of the NHS was to be able to provide care to those that need it! The service provided to the people that need it is severely hindered and reduced due to cases like this idiot taking a lot of time and funds up!

And we wonder why the NHS on the whole has so many budget problems!!

Bing o

15,184 posts

225 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Puggit said:
RichBurley said:
If it is successful, then provided the cost of this is less than the cost of obesity related medical care, then it has got to be worth it!

Besides, she probably would get a job, and would apply for DLA if she stays fat. At least she might actually be able to become a tax payer.

If the numbers add up, it can't be a bad thing.
I'm with Rich on this.

If she has shown success so far, then the money isn't being p!ssed up a wall.

She is flying economy, right?
3 seats though.

If you want VFM, then surely a hollow point 9mm would be the most cost effective.

I don't understand why being obese in this country is like a badge of pride? In most countries people strive to be thin and healthy - seems to be the exact opposite here.

hugo a gogo

23,379 posts

239 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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she's pretty much a victim of child abuse

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Since she's a child, what has happened isn't entirely her responsibility. Her parents must carry much of the blame.

It amounts to a form of child abuse. Children have been taken into care in similar circumstances. The system has failed to act.

If her parents had starved her would you begrudge appropriate treatment?

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Bing o said:
3 seats though.

If you want VFM, then surely a hollow point 9mm would be the most cost effective.

I don't understand why being obese in this country is like a badge of pride? In most countries people strive to be thin and healthy - seems to be the exact opposite here.
I find it a little contradictory when you have the Government spurting out rhetoric about how much exercise we should all do, and all these grand schemes they introduce to get us all fit again......yet they still are willing to pay out benefits to people like this because they are obese and unable to work.

The only 'disability' these people have is a disability to stop eating!!

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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RichBurley said:
If it is successful, then provided the cost of this is less than the cost of obesity related medical care, then it has got to be worth it!

Besides, she probably would get a job, and would apply for DLA if she stays fat. At least she might actually be able to become a tax payer.

If the numbers add up, it can't be a bad thing.
Aren't certain treatments rationed for smokers? That being the case the same logic could be applied to this waste of space.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Spiritual_Beggar said:
RichBurley said:
If it is successful, then provided the cost of this is less than the cost of obesity related medical care, then it has got to be worth it!

Besides, she probably would get a job, and would apply for DLA if she stays fat. At least she might actually be able to become a tax payer.

If the numbers add up, it can't be a bad thing.
She should be paying for her own obesity care. The government didn't make her fat. Neither did I. So why are we paying to make her thin?

The point of the NHS was to be able to provide care to those that need it! The service provided to the people that need it is severely hindered and reduced due to cases like this idiot taking a lot of time and funds up!

And we wonder why the NHS on the whole has so many budget problems!!
Have an accident on a trackday, or playing rugby, or rock-climbing, or hillwalking, or when drunk?
The government didn't make you do it, neither did I. So why are we paying to patch you up after your own misfortune?

Not defending Fatty woman, BUT we are all forced to pay for the NHS. The other side of the deal is that we all get fixed, regardless of whether we caused the problem ourselves or not.

You either have the NHS which gives "healthcare to all", or you stop forcing people to pay for it, and let them spend their money on private health insurance instead. It would be wrong to force people to pay National Insurance and then deny healthcare because you weren't doing a state-sanctioned activity at the time.

Fume troll

4,389 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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If it works (which it probably won't, long term) then it is probably cheaper than all the money the NHS will spend trying to sort her out later.

Cheers,

FT.

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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The Black Flash said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
RichBurley said:
If it is successful, then provided the cost of this is less than the cost of obesity related medical care, then it has got to be worth it!

Besides, she probably would get a job, and would apply for DLA if she stays fat. At least she might actually be able to become a tax payer.

If the numbers add up, it can't be a bad thing.
She should be paying for her own obesity care. The government didn't make her fat. Neither did I. So why are we paying to make her thin?

The point of the NHS was to be able to provide care to those that need it! The service provided to the people that need it is severely hindered and reduced due to cases like this idiot taking a lot of time and funds up!

And we wonder why the NHS on the whole has so many budget problems!!
Have an accident on a trackday, or playing rugby, or rock-climbing, or hillwalking, or when drunk?
The government didn't make you do it, neither did I. So why are we paying to patch you up after your own misfortune?

Not defending Fatty woman, BUT we are all forced to pay for the NHS. The other side of the deal is that we all get fixed, regardless of whether we caused the problem ourselves or not.

You either have the NHS which gives "healthcare to all", or you stop forcing people to pay for it, and let them spend their money on private health insurance instead. It would be wrong to force people to pay National Insurance and then deny healthcare because you weren't doing a state-sanctioned activity at the time.
So we have to subsidies people who take risks with their health. Seems like an argument that those who take additional risks should carry insurance to cover the potential costs or face a large bill for their care.

Fume troll

4,389 posts

218 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Fittster said:
So we have to subsidies people who take risks with their health.
Course we do; sports enthusiasts, motorcyclists, alcholics, drug users, people who drive too fast...

Cheers,

FT.

mechsympathy

53,940 posts

261 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Fittster said:
So we have to subsidies people who take risks with their health. Seems like an argument that those who take additional risks should carry insurance to cover the potential costs or face a large bill for their care.
Where does that stop? Riding a bike is more risky. Breaking the speed limit is (perceived to be wink) more risky. Having a fry-up is more risky...

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

200 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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The Black Flash said:
Have an accident on a trackday, or playing rugby, or rock-climbing, or hillwalking, or when drunk?
The government didn't make you do it, neither did I. So why are we paying to patch you up after your own misfortune?

Not defending Fatty woman, BUT we are all forced to pay for the NHS. The other side of the deal is that we all get fixed, regardless of whether we caused the problem ourselves or not.

You either have the NHS which gives "healthcare to all", or you stop forcing people to pay for it, and let them spend their money on private health insurance instead. It would be wrong to force people to pay National Insurance and then deny healthcare because you weren't doing a state-sanctioned activity at the time.
Key word there though is; ACCIDENT

That is why the NHS exists. To cover for accidents, and medical problems.

Her getting fat is not an accident, and certainly isn't something that happened over night, so was well within her/ her parents control to prevent it.

Edited by Spiritual_Beggar on Tuesday 23 June 16:23

Martial Arts Man

6,625 posts

192 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of funding this escapade, surely there is somewhere in the UK that fatties can go to get thin?

There just has to be.

If not, there could be a good fitness, NHS funded, business waiting to be set up here!

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

190 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2009
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Martial Arts Man said:
Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of funding this escapade, surely there is somewhere in the UK that fatties can go to get thin?

There just has to be.

If not, there could be a good fitness, NHS funded, business waiting to be set up here!
shouldnt our schools be able to say stop eating fatty. wheres jamie when you need him