Did the USA really land on the moon?

[funkyrobot]

As we are talking (and getting excited) about a moon mission again, I wondered about the massively disputed question that seems to crop up every now and again. Did we (well, the USofA) really land on the moon.

Now, before i'm flamed to a crisp with barrages of 'conspiracy theorist', 'this has been done to death' etc etc, can I get a decent discussion going on what people's thoughts are on this.

I, personally, am not really sure about what happened. I don't believe conspiracy theorist stories, but I also don't really believe what has been said by the other side.

There are so many fors and againsts that it is quite hard to make a good balanced decision based on what I think really happened. You have the usual conspiracy stuff along the lines of no stars in the sky, the radiation would fry you, why has nobody else done it or been since etc.

Then you have the other side stating that if you were to examine the moon you would see the human debris left on there, the amount of technology, time and effort involved etc, the actual launches of the rockets viewed by millions of people, the astronauts themselves (none of which, apparently, came back 'quite' the same).

So, did the USA actually do it? Can we discuss this with fact and decent ideas? Or has this already been done to death too much and everyone is bored of it??

I want to believe that it was done, but I have some niggling doubts.

[Zod]

Of course the USA landed on the moon.

Umpteen idiots have posted threads about this before and another thread of tinfoil hat loons posting alternately with the sane will not advance matters.

[thinfourth2]

If it didn't happen then how exactly did they keep the many many thousands of folk involved with it to keep quiet.

No death bed confessions, no leaks, no foreign spies, nothing what so ever apart from a few lone nutters on the internet.

[Bing o]

funkyrobot said:

Or has this already been done to death too much and everyone is bored of it??

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They flew there, they landed, it was man's truly great accomplishment.

End of.

(And there are no "facts" against the moon landings, just psycho nonsense from unhinged people.)

[thehawk]

Depends what moon you are referring to.

[Poledriver]

Not again.............Why do some threads just refuse to die?

BTW. If an air plane was sat on a conveyor belt would it....

[rich1231]

funkyrobot said:

As we are talking (and getting excited) about a moon mission again, I wondered about the massively disputed question that seems to crop up every now and again. Did we (well, the USofA) really land on the moon.

Now, before i'm flamed to a crisp with barrages of 'conspiracy theorist', 'this has been done to death' etc etc, can I get a decent discussion going on what people's thoughts are on this.

I, personally, am not really sure about what happened. I don't believe conspiracy theorist stories, but I also don't really believe what has been said by the other side.

There are so many fors and againsts that it is quite hard to make a good balanced decision based on what I think really happened. You have the usual conspiracy stuff along the lines of no stars in the sky, the radiation would fry you, why has nobody else done it or been since etc.

Then you have the other side stating that if you were to examine the moon you would see the human debris left on there, the amount of technology, time and effort involved etc, the actual launches of the rockets viewed by millions of people, the astronauts themselves (none of which, apparently, came back 'quite' the same).

So, did the USA actually do it? Can we discuss this with fact and decent ideas? Or has this already been done to death too much and everyone is bored of it??

I want to believe that it was done, but I have some niggling doubts.

Retard

[funkyrobot]

Poledriver said:

Not again.............Why do some threads just refuse to die?

BTW. If an air plane was sat on a conveyor belt would it....

Maybe there are people like me who generally want a good factual debate to help make their mind up.

[funkyrobot]

rich1231 said:

Retard

Thanks for the useful and friendly contribution! I know you struggle with stringing a sentence together so i'll let you off.

[ludo]

ISTR that the distance from the Earth to the moon is measured by bouncing a LASER of a reflector placed on the moons surface. The reflector placed by one of the moon missions is "visible" from the Earth.

[Quaint]

funkyrobot said:

I also don't really believe what has been said by the other side.

I suspect, with all due apologies and respect, that this signifies you are a singularly uncritical reader of internet nonsense.

Yes, NASA went to the moon. They flew 6 successful missions, one somewhat hairy abort and various lunar-orbit and earth-orbit preparatory missions. There is lots of evidence "for" and nothing whatsoever "against". This is not a philosophical hypothesis, it is not a theory, it is not hearsay, it is historical fact.

Edited due to kyeborad malfunction.

Edited by Quaint on Tuesday 23 June 13:08

[elster]

Yes there are recent photos of the site as well.

[Neil_H]

funkyrobot said:

can I get a decent discussion going on what people's thoughts are on this.

No.

funkyrobot said:

Or has this already been done to death too much and everyone is bored of it??

Yes.

[funkyrobot]

Quaint said:

funkyrobot said:

I also don't really believe what has been said by the other side.

I suspect, with all due apologies and respect, that this signifies you are a singularly uncritical reader of internet nonsense.

Yes, NASA went to the moon. They flew 6 successful missions, one somewhat hairy abort and various lunar-orbit and earth-orbit preparatory missions. There is lots of evidence "for" and nothing whatsoever "against". This is not a philosophical hypothesis, it is not a theory, it is not hearsay, it is historical fact.

Edited due to kyeborad malfunction.

Edited by Quaint on Tuesday 23 June 13:08

I don't really believe internet nonsense, but at the same time I don't really believe everything that is said by official bodies. I gather all of the information available and make a decision based on that. E.g. do you believe everything that our government tell you?

I am not saying that this event didn't happen. I think it's amazing and to be honest I have always been fascinated by space and the cosmos. There are just a few things that have been mentioned that seem to be valid points. One of these is the fact that there was a massive space race, we went there, then nothing. Also, how come the Russians never got there? They did put the first man in space didn't they?

[grumbledoak]

It is possible to make a 'universal reflector'. And, they did. They made an array of them, IIRC. And placed it on the moon. It still reflects lasers today.

[Muzzer]

Go to Kennedy, look round the visitor's centre, take the tour to the launch pads and go to the Apollo Building.

They went. Definitely.

[funkyrobot]

Guam said:

Trool Feeding dont young Jedii

That's right Guam, a troll who has been posting on this site for years!

If anything, the people that should be considered stupid are those that believe one side of the argument and start whining because somebody disagrees with them. Is it too hard to have an open mind?

[Einion Yrth]

funkyrobot said:

Is it too hard to have an open mind?

It's very important to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

[JonRB]

funkyrobot said:

If anything, the people that should be considered stupid are those that believe one side of the argument and start whining because somebody disagrees with them. Is it too hard to have an open mind?

We may as well have an 'informed debate' as to whether the Earth is flat or round. The flat earth nutters won't listen to all evidence to the contrary, and neither will the moon conspiracy nutjobs.

[Muzzer]

funkyrobot said:

Guam said:

Trool Feeding dont young Jedii

That's right Guam, a troll who has been posting on this site for years!

If anything, the people that should be considered stupid are those that believe one side of the argument and start whining because somebody disagrees with them. Is it too hard to have an open mind?

People whine because there's absolutely no evidence to suggest that the Moon landing was faked, therefore no reason to disagree with them.

It's all internet conspiracists and people who "don't always believe what the government say"

At this point, said internet conspiracist would come back to me with some tin-hat argument about shadows in photos or heat exposure on the surface. Which, I'm afraid, is all bks.