900 strikers sacked!

[JCB123]

Good!

I know plenty of people who really want a job.

What started as organised strikes by Lindsey Oil Refinery Workers has turned into farce...what gives them the right to walk out of their jobs because they aren't happy with something, and then just waltz straight back in again?!

We all have elements of our jobs we don't like.....but we choose to work there!

I'm glad they've sacked them....useless tosspots!

[trumpet600]

Maybe TfL could learn something from this

[JCB123]

trumpet600 said:

Maybe TfL could learn something from this

TfL?

[OzzyR1]

Transport for London

[JCB123]

Ah, agreed!

[johnfm]

Militant bloke on R4 this morning said he just got a letter in the post. I guess if you live by the sword, you die by the sword.

[SimonD]

Having worked for the company in question for 8 years (until a couple of months ago), the thing I've said for months is that there's no point in trying to win a battle of bluff with them. There are ego's at stake, and Total's is infinitely huge. They will always resort to an action like this just to save face, and will not back down.

Shame the 900 had to find this out the hard way, but it was an illegal strike so what did they expect?

[heebeegeetee]

JCB123 said:

Good!

I know plenty of people who really want a job.

What started as organised strikes by Lindsey Oil Refinery Workers has turned into farce...what gives them the right to walk out of their jobs because they aren't happy with something, and then just waltz straight back in again?!

We all have elements of our jobs we don't like.....but we choose to work there!

I'm glad they've sacked them....useless tosspots!

Well, they haven't actually got jobs, have they? They're contract workers, working a contract that is skewed heavily in Totals favour, a company who are importing cheap foreign labour into a country that now has high unemployment because we have a govt who has let the business community behave in a totally irresponsible manner and who have now bankrupted us.

No doubt you agree with Total (I presume you must also know that Total would never get away with this in their home country - they'd never even try it, they'd get refineries burnt down because the French aren't spineless like we are) but I presume also that you do realise that you have to pay the benefits and tax credits of these men, and you'll now be paying more.

Have you always been to happy to personally subsidise multi-billion global conglomerates?

[10 Pence Short]

heebeegeetee said:

JCB123 said:

Good!

I know plenty of people who really want a job.

What started as organised strikes by Lindsey Oil Refinery Workers has turned into farce...what gives them the right to walk out of their jobs because they aren't happy with something, and then just waltz straight back in again?!

We all have elements of our jobs we don't like.....but we choose to work there!

I'm glad they've sacked them....useless tosspots!

Well, they haven't actually got jobs, have they? They're contract workers, working a contract that is skewed heavily in Totals favour, a company who are importing cheap foreign labour into a country that now has high unemployment because we have a govt who has let the business community behave in a totally irresponsible manner and who have now bankrupted us.

No doubt you agree with Total (I presume you must also know that Total would never get away with this in their home country - they'd never even try it, they'd get refineries burnt down because the French aren't spineless like we are) but I presume also that you do realise that you have to pay the benefits and tax credits of these men, and you'll now be paying more.

Have you always been to happy to personally subsidise multi-billion global conglomerates?

There are rules and regulations which provide a framework within which their contract workers can strike. If those workers choose to operate outside of those rules and regulations and strike anyway, why shouldn't they face sanctions?

[pkitchen]

JCB123 said:

Good!

I know plenty of people who really want a job.

What started as organised strikes by Lindsey Oil Refinery Workers has turned into farce...what gives them the right to walk out of their jobs because they aren't happy with something, and then just waltz straight back in again?!

We all have elements of our jobs we don't like.....but we choose to work there!

I'm glad they've sacked them....useless tosspots!

Superb. I am so pleased. Now then let's sort those bds out on the tube. Bring it on

[Don]

It really is like deja vu.

Now is the winter of our discontent...just so happens to be summer.

Bad times are coming.

[pkitchen]

Don said:

It really is like deja vu.

Now is the winter of our discontent...just so happens to be summer.

Bad times are coming.

Not for me I ride a bike.....

[johnfm]

heebeegeetee said:

JCB123 said:

Good!

I know plenty of people who really want a job.

What started as organised strikes by Lindsey Oil Refinery Workers has turned into farce...what gives them the right to walk out of their jobs because they aren't happy with something, and then just waltz straight back in again?!

We all have elements of our jobs we don't like.....but we choose to work there!

I'm glad they've sacked them....useless tosspots!

Well, they haven't actually got jobs, have they? They're contract workers, working a contract that is skewed heavily in Totals favour, a company who are importing cheap foreign labour into a country that now has high unemployment because we have a govt who has let the business community behave in a totally irresponsible manner and who have now bankrupted us.

No doubt you agree with Total (I presume you must also know that Total would never get away with this in their home country - they'd never even try it, they'd get refineries burnt down because the French aren't spineless like we are) but I presume also that you do realise that you have to pay the benefits and tax credits of these men, and you'll now be paying more.

Have you always been to happy to personally subsidise multi-billion global conglomerates?

I used to think like you - I honestly thought that 'global conglomerates' were bigger 'dole scroungers' than dole scroungers.

Then I realised that global conglomerates, though we give them tax breaks, and subsidise their capital investment programmes etc etc generate cah flows. They make things (tv sets, or Nissans, or refined oils) and sell them on at a profit. They employ people (who pay tax and buy things and stimulate more trade) etc etc.

That is when I realised that 'conglomerate doel scroungers' generate wealth - contra 'dole scrou ngers' who generate very little.

[heebeegeetee]

johnfm said:

I used to think like you - I honestly thought that 'global conglomerates' were bigger 'dole scroungers' than dole scroungers.

Then I realised that global conglomerates, though we give them tax breaks, and subsidise their capital investment programmes etc etc generate cah flows. They make things (tv sets, or Nissans, or refined oils) and sell them on at a profit. They employ people (who pay tax and buy things and stimulate more trade) etc etc.

That is when I realised that 'conglomerate doel scroungers' generate wealth - contra 'dole scrou ngers' who generate very little.

That doesn't explain why the man on the street has to subsidise so many wealthy people though - we are supposed to be a free market, yet the man on the street has no choice, because even when a company has shown that it is not fit for purpose, Joe Public still has to subsidise them through taxes.

Plus, in this case the workers are trying not to be dole scroungers. I think they'd be happier earning enough to pay their own way entirely, instead of having to have their wages topped up by the rest of us.

[JJCW]

Plenty of people are wanting those jobs, these idiots go on unofficial strikes and get themselves fired.

Hello Mr Darwin, i've found some more idiots to help prove your theory...

[jesusbuiltmycar]

heebeegeetee said:

JCB123 said:

Good!

I know plenty of people who really want a job.

What started as organised strikes by Lindsey Oil Refinery Workers has turned into farce...what gives them the right to walk out of their jobs because they aren't happy with something, and then just waltz straight back in again?!

We all have elements of our jobs we don't like.....but we choose to work there!

I'm glad they've sacked them....useless tosspots!

Well, they haven't actually got jobs, have they? They're contract workers, working a contract that is skewed heavily in Totals favour, a company who are importing cheap foreign labour into a country that now has high unemployment because we have a govt who has let the business community behave in a totally irresponsible manner and who have now bankrupted us.

No doubt you agree with Total (I presume you must also know that Total would never get away with this in their home country - they'd never even try it, they'd get refineries burnt down because the French aren't spineless like we are) but I presume also that you do realise that you have to pay the benefits and tax credits of these men, and you'll now be paying more.

Have you always been to happy to personally subsidise multi-billion global conglomerates?

Assuming of course that all 900 end up on the dole and Total do not employ 900 replacement staff...

[heebeegeetee]

JJCW said:

Plenty of people are wanting those jobs, these idiots go on unofficial strikes and get themselves fired.

Hello Mr Darwin, i've found some more idiots to help prove your theory...

But you're the idiot who has to pay for them, not Total.

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Assuming of course that all 900 end up on the dole and Total do not employ 900 replacement staff...

From poland?

[jesusbuiltmycar]

heebeegeetee said:

JJCW said:

Plenty of people are wanting those jobs, these idiots go on unofficial strikes and get themselves fired.

Hello Mr Darwin, i've found some more idiots to help prove your theory...

But you're the idiot who has to pay for them, not Total.

jesusbuiltmycar said:

Assuming of course that all 900 end up on the dole and Total do not employ 900 replacement staff...

From poland?

Can you be sure that none of the 900 sacked strokers are from Poland?

I thought a lot of Polish workers are now reluctant to come here due to the weakness of sterling against the szlotty....

[VxDuncan]

Hang on a minute. These guys are CONTRACT workers. They are not employees. If you are a contractor you have to accept that your job can be terminated almost instantly, will be the first go go in any trouble and have far less rights than "normal" employees. If they don't have a financial reserve to cope with that (which should come from the higher salary they would earn in the first place) that it's their fault. As is an illegal strike.

[crofty1984]

Don said:

It really is like deja vu.

Now is the winter of our discontent...just so happens to be summer.

Bad times are coming.

I love music festivals. Bring on the Summer Disco-Tent!

That is what you meant wasn't it?