Has the Government got sod all better to worry about?

Has the Government got sod all better to worry about?

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odyssey2200

Original Poster:

18,650 posts

215 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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With all the st going on, why are winky and co so hung up aver Broadband?

Apparently Broadband connection is as important as electricity, gas and water supplies?rolleyes

Would there be some underlying motive?
Would we all be easier to spy on if we had a decent BB connection?

(Dons Tin Foil Hatsilly )

or is this just more spin, subterfuge and misdirection?



D-Angle

4,468 posts

248 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Labour want us to be able to vote online.

Higher turnout = Labour victories forever more.

Ever wondered why they were so generous to businesses, allowing them to write off 100% of the the cost of computers in the first year? Put it this way, how many of those computers were passed on to family and friends, and thus put a computer in a lot more homes?

That tinfoil hat - got a spare? wink

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Another gormless eye catching initiative and we'll be paying for it http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_...

Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Another sodding Labour tax and no pledge to scrap it from the opposition.

chris watton

22,478 posts

266 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Internet/PC tax in the future....?...

Tycho

11,824 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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chris watton said:
Internet/PC tax in the future....?...
We will have to pay 50p in tax in this proposal. Like we don't already pay VAT on the line rental etc...

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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wtf should we pay another tax for this? if its that important the licence fee can pay for it rather than j ross ffs

Deva Link

26,934 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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My Mum was commenting at the weekend about feeling left out now almost everything seems to be "on-line".

My daughter teaches in a secondary school and she said there's quite a divide now between the kids that have broadband at home and those who don't. She teaches in a pretty poor area and reckons about a third of the kids don't have broadband or access to a computer at home. Makes a big difference when the kids have to research a topic.

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Deva Link said:
My Mum was commenting at the weekend about feeling left out now almost everything seems to be "on-line".

My daughter teaches in a secondary school and she said there's quite a divide now between the kids that have broadband at home and those who don't. She teaches in a pretty poor area and reckons about a third of the kids don't have broadband or access to a computer at home. Makes a big difference when the kids have to research a topic.
so i not only have to subsidise their net connection at school but at home too - great. if they are that poor then they wont have a pc to use the broadband..

Deva Link

26,934 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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loltolhurst said:
Deva Link said:
My Mum was commenting at the weekend about feeling left out now almost everything seems to be "on-line".

My daughter teaches in a secondary school and she said there's quite a divide now between the kids that have broadband at home and those who don't. She teaches in a pretty poor area and reckons about a third of the kids don't have broadband or access to a computer at home. Makes a big difference when the kids have to research a topic.
so i not only have to subsidise their net connection at school but at home too - great. if they are that poor then they wont have a pc to use the broadband..
They're going to be given PCs. smile

(Wonder how many of them will be sold down the pub?)

grumbledoak

31,763 posts

239 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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More than anything, this is just another tax for a bankrupt (in every sense) government.

The stupid thing is that, before privatisation, BT offered to fibre the whole country if it kept it's monopoly. It would have been done years ago. But, the illusion of competition was deemed more important, even though it was abundantly clear that rural areas would be neglected in favour of more profitable urban areas.

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Deva Link said:
loltolhurst said:
Deva Link said:
My Mum was commenting at the weekend about feeling left out now almost everything seems to be "on-line".

My daughter teaches in a secondary school and she said there's quite a divide now between the kids that have broadband at home and those who don't. She teaches in a pretty poor area and reckons about a third of the kids don't have broadband or access to a computer at home. Makes a big difference when the kids have to research a topic.
so i not only have to subsidise their net connection at school but at home too - great. if they are that poor then they wont have a pc to use the broadband..
They're going to be given PCs. smile

(Wonder how many of them will be sold down the pub?)
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tycho

11,824 posts

279 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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grumbledoak said:
More than anything, this is just another tax for a bankrupt (in every sense) government.

The stupid thing is that, before privatisation, BT offered to fibre the whole country if it kept it's monopoly. It would have been done years ago. But, the illusion of competition was deemed more important, even though it was abundantly clear that rural areas would be neglected in favour of more profitable urban areas.
Exactly, there is no incentive for BT to install the best equipment/fibre as other ISPs have the right to use it without contributing to the upgrades.

odyssey2200

Original Poster:

18,650 posts

215 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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So the Gov't(us) pays for BB connections and a PC so that the ISP can make a profit?
furious

Police State

4,110 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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odyssey2200 said:
With all the st going on, why are winky and co so hung up aver Broadband?

Apparently Broadband connection is as important as electricity, gas and water supplies?rolleyes

Would there be some underlying motive?
Would we all be easier to spy on if we had a decent BB connection?

(Dons Tin Foil Hatsilly )

or is this just more spin, subterfuge and misdirection?


a fully wired up Britain, including digital telphony and radio is a completely controllable and lock-downable population.


Fittster

20,120 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Police State said:
odyssey2200 said:
With all the st going on, why are winky and co so hung up aver Broadband?

Apparently Broadband connection is as important as electricity, gas and water supplies?rolleyes

Would there be some underlying motive?
Would we all be easier to spy on if we had a decent BB connection?

(Dons Tin Foil Hatsilly )

or is this just more spin, subterfuge and misdirection?


a fully wired up Britain, including digital telphony and radio is a completely controllable and lock-downable population.
Any population without access to firearms is completely controllable.

The Hypno-Toad

12,629 posts

211 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Real simple, they need more money, therefore they need to tax something we all use, we now all need a computer, so join the dots.

Next up, mobile phones.

judas

6,057 posts

265 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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If the chavs can afford Sky+ and fk-off big telly they can afford broadband. In either case we end up paying for it. grumpy

miniman

26,022 posts

268 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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Despite the fact that living in a "rural" area that might actually benefit from some investment in replacing the copper wire from the 1600s, I might actually end up with better broadband speed, the concept of a 50p per month tax to improve the availability of high speed internet is an utterly despicable piece of electioneering from a defunct bunch of losers. Faced with public sector cuts left, right and centre being virtually inevitable, is it any surprise that Winky and his moronic cronies have invented yet another government department into which all the detritus of hopeless wasters who would last a mere 3 minutes in the private sector can flock? Good grief.

What's more, £130m to pay for ITV regional news? Amazing. Putting it in context, that is one million times their current annual budget, based on the output they manage to conjure up currently.

loltolhurst

1,994 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th June 2009
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miniman said:
Despite the fact that living in a "rural" area that might actually benefit from some investment in replacing the copper wire from the 1600s, I might actually end up with better broadband speed, the concept of a 50p per month tax to improve the availability of high speed internet is an utterly despicable piece of electioneering from a defunct bunch of losers. Faced with public sector cuts left, right and centre being virtually inevitable, is it any surprise that Winky and his moronic cronies have invented yet another government department into which all the detritus of hopeless wasters who would last a mere 3 minutes in the private sector can flock? Good grief.

What's more, £130m to pay for ITV regional news? Amazing. Putting it in context, that is one million times their current annual budget, based on the output they manage to conjure up currently.
we also have kenttv a net tv station set up by the ffing council paid by council tax does anyone else have council funded tv? why the ffffff do we need this and local bbc and now have to pay for itv etc too its just mad.

stupid question but does mobile broadband not work in the places that dont have bband?