UK economy best in Europe

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Puggit

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48,768 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Is this why Brown is clinging on?

Observer on Sunday

Observer said:
Britain is emerging from the worldwide recession in better shape than many rivals, and voters should give Gordon Brown the credit, Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman says today in an interview with Observer columnist Will Hutton.

Krugman, who is in London to deliver a series of major lectures on how the world can avoid a 21st-century Great Depression, offered a gloomy assessment of prospects for the rest of the world - but said that the government's bank rescue package, together with a sharp fall in sterling and record low interest rates, should help nurse UK plc back to health.

"I think the UK economy looks the best in Europe at the moment. I think the policies are intelligent," he says, adding that the government may eventually benefit if the green shoots emerging over recent weeks flourish. "If the government can hold off having an election until next year, Labour might well be able to run as 'the people who brought Britain out of the slump'," he says.

ShadownINja

77,397 posts

288 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Part of me hopes the economy takes a dive now. redface

Puggit

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48,768 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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ShadownINja said:
Part of me hopes the economy takes a dive now. redface
A W shaped recession is just what parliament needs!

FourWheelDrift

89,421 posts

290 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Paul Krugman praises Winky but was very critical of Obama for doing exactly the same job of propping up the banks in the US. Perhaps he's got vested interest in the UK, perhaps a job as advisor to Winky?

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

237 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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FourWheelDrift said:
Paul Krugman praises Winky but was very critical of Obama for doing exactly the same job of propping up the banks in the US. Perhaps he's got vested interest in the UK, perhaps a job as advisor to Winky?
I agree, this guy is being somewhat contradictory.

ShadownINja

77,397 posts

288 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Typical. Isn't there anyone trustworthy near the top?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

210 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Observer said:
Britain is emerging from the worldwide recession in better shape than many rivals, and voters should give Gordon Brown the credit, Nobel prize-winning economist Sir Paul Krugman says today in an interview with Observer columnist Will Hutton.

Sir Krugman, who is in London to deliver a series of major lectures on how the world can avoid a 21st-century Great Depression, offered a gloomy assessment of prospects for the rest of the world - but said that the government's bank rescue package, together with a sharp fall in sterling and record low interest rates, should help nurse UK plc back to health.

"I think the UK economy looks the best in Europe at the moment. I think the policies are intelligent," he says, adding that the government may eventually benefit if the green shoots emerging over recent weeks flourish. "If the government can hold off having an election until next year, Labour might well be able to run as 'the people who brought Britain out of the slump'," he says.
Edited for crystal ball

tinman0

18,231 posts

246 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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In part, the guy could be correct. But thats only because the recession hits the manufacturing base and thats been all but wiped out in previous Labour administrations. Our recession is simply hurting the big industrial bases like Germany.

The last little bit of manufacturing we had is getting mopped up with this recession.

KANEIT

2,680 posts

225 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Hmmmmm! Economics Nobel Prize winner speaks his mind about the advantagous state of our economy in relation to the rest of Europe. That's not the sort of thing he would say lightly. Because what he says isn't to your liking he must be pals with Brown or corrupt? Get a fking life!

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

237 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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KANEIT said:
Hmmmmm! Economics Nobel Prize winner speaks his mind about the advantagous state of our economy in relation to the rest of Europe. That's not the sort of thing he would say lightly. Because what he says isn't to your liking he must be pals with Brown or corrupt? Get a fking life!
Then why did he criticise Obama for doing the same thing? BTW, "Nobel" anything lost its shine when Al Gore was handed one.



Edited by Jimbeaux on Sunday 14th June 18:26

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Paul Krugman is an absurd Cassandra who has been writing books and articles predicting economic collapse for over thirty years. Will Hutton is a lunatic New Labour idologist obsessed with the concept of "stakeholders" (essentially, the word means people who will vote Labour).

The only sensible course is to ignore them both.

Mclovin

1,679 posts

204 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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green shots from where...we have an economy driven by consumption and house prices with a massive public sector.... i guess a lot of countries are following john maynard keynes but i want my money to actually be worth something so i advocate sending a terminator back in time...

in other nonnews the government is unveiling its plans for digital britain...how much is it going to cost and how will they fk it up...

LoveMachine

202 posts

185 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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Mclovin said:
in other nonnews the government is unveiling its plans for digital britain...how much is it going to cost and how they will go CHURRRR CHIIIING ££££££££££££££
EFA

Edited by LoveMachine on Monday 15th June 00:32

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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Puggit said:
Is this why Brown is clinging on?

Observer on Sunday
Observer said:
Britain is emerging from the worldwide recession in better shape than many rivals, and voters should give Gordon Brown the credit, Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman says today in an interview with Observer columnist Will Hutton.

Krugman, who is in London to deliver a series of major lectures on how the world can avoid a 21st-century Great Depression, offered a gloomy assessment of prospects for the rest of the world - but said that the government's bank rescue package, together with a sharp fall in sterling and record low interest rates, should help nurse UK plc back to health.

"I think the UK economy looks the best in Europe at the moment. I think the policies are intelligent," he says, adding that the government may eventually benefit if the green shoots emerging over recent weeks flourish. "If the government can hold off having an election until next year, Labour might well be able to run as 'the people who brought Britain out of the slump'," he says.
And of course absolutely no mention of the fact that Britons have the highest personal debt of ANY civilised country... that's not going to affect the climb out of recession now, is it?
Hopefully Britain will climb out but until the "buy it on tick" mentality is destroyed, Britain cannot improve it's lot, IMHO....

JJCW

2,449 posts

192 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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So we're screwed, just less screwed than anyone else?

Doesn't make me feel much better really!!

ShadownINja

77,397 posts

288 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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JMGS4 said:
Puggit said:
Is this why Brown is clinging on?

Observer on Sunday
Observer said:
Britain is emerging from the worldwide recession in better shape than many rivals, and voters should give Gordon Brown the credit, Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman says today in an interview with Observer columnist Will Hutton.

Krugman, who is in London to deliver a series of major lectures on how the world can avoid a 21st-century Great Depression, offered a gloomy assessment of prospects for the rest of the world - but said that the government's bank rescue package, together with a sharp fall in sterling and record low interest rates, should help nurse UK plc back to health.

"I think the UK economy looks the best in Europe at the moment. I think the policies are intelligent," he says, adding that the government may eventually benefit if the green shoots emerging over recent weeks flourish. "If the government can hold off having an election until next year, Labour might well be able to run as 'the people who brought Britain out of the slump'," he says.
And of course absolutely no mention of the fact that Britons have the highest personal debt of ANY civilised country... that's not going to affect the climb out of recession now, is it?
Hopefully Britain will climb out but until the "buy it on tick" mentality is destroyed, Britain cannot improve it's lot, IMHO....
What??? You mean... we can't borrow our way out of debt? But the man from Ocean Finance said...

superkartracer

8,959 posts

228 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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So you would rather hear

UK IN WORST POSSIBLE POSITION?

Even if these people lie..., positive news is what we need.

Don

28,377 posts

290 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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Do you believe what you read in what is, effectively, the Sunday Grauniad?

We may well come out of technical recession shortly but we will be feeling the effects for two years afterwards in terms of jobs.

Is our economy "the best" in Europe? Depends on your measures, doen't it.

Positive news is always welcome. But pointlessly optimistic spin is also unhelpful.

Mclovin

1,679 posts

204 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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yeah positive news is good for the country of course but labour isnt...

FoolOnTheHill

1,018 posts

217 months

Monday 15th June 2009
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I'm not sure I'd call it "best". "least worst" might be more accurate, best implies that it's in a good state.