Gordon's Democratic Renewal - Unelected positions for all!

Gordon's Democratic Renewal - Unelected positions for all!

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jesusbuiltmycar

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4,620 posts

260 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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This week Gordon Brown, the PM without a mandate, has been talking about "democratic renewal". Many regard Winky as an "unelected" PM, having bullied his way into the top job by avoiding a party leadership election and a General Election. I find it more offensive that twice disgraced Mandleson, Deputy PM in all but name (and the guy who is now running the show) is completly unelected.

Gordon Browns government now includes 20 Ministereal positions appointed to unelected lords.

If he wants "democratic reneweal" he should start by mandating that Ministereal Positions are only held by democratically elected MPs.


From Guido Faulkes
guido said:
Gordon has had a damascene conversion to democratic renewal since little over 5% of eligible voters supported him at the polls last week. The irony of a PM who avoided facing election to be leader of his own party and has no democratic public mandate wanting “democratic renewal” is striking. If he really wishes to reconnect with voters he could always call a general election.

How democratic is his own government?

The Cabinet :


1. First Secretary of State, Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills and Lord President of the Council – The Rt Hon Lord Mandelson etc.

2. Leader of the House of Lords and Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster – The Rt Hon Baroness Royall of Blaisdon

3. Secretary of State for Transport – Lord Adonis

Other Ministers :

4. Attorney General – The Rt Hon Baroness Scotland of Asthal QC
5. Advocate General for Scotland – Lord Davidson of Glen Clova QC
6. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (MoJ) – Lord Bach
7. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (HO) – Admiral Lord West of Spithead GCB DSC
8. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DCSF) – Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
9. Minister of State (DECC) – Lord Hunt of Kings Heath OBE; and Deputy Leader of the House of Lords
10. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DOH) – Professor Lord Darzi of Denham KBE
11. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DWP) – Lord McKenzie of Luton
12. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State* (DBIS) – Lord Young of Norwood Green (and Lord in Waiting – paid)
13. Financial Services Secretary (Treasury) – Lord Myners CBE
14. Minister of State (FCO) – The Rt Hon Lord Malloch-Brown KCMG
15. Minister of State – The Rt Hon Lord Drayson & (DBIS) (jointly with the Ministry of Defence)
Minister of State (MOD) – The Rt Hon Lord Drayson & (jointly with the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills)
16. Minister of State – Lord Davies of Abersoch CBE (DBIS) (jointly with the Foreign and Commonwealth Office)
Minister of State (FCO) – Lord Davies of Abersoch CBE (jointly with the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills)
17. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (DBIS) – Baroness Vadera (jointly with Cabinet Office)
Parliamentary Secretary (Cabinet Office) – Baroness Vadera (jointly with the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills)
18. Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (FCO) – Baroness Taylor of Bolton (jointly with the Ministry of Defence)
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (MOD) – Baroness Taylor of Bolton (jointly with Foreign and Commonwealth Office)

New Lords:

19. Sir Alan Sugar
20. Glennis Kinnock

Unelected and democratically unaccountable ministers who owe their positions and loyalty only to Gordon Brown…

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

204 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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The doublespeak is incredible, but do the media pull him up on it? Like fk.

Mclovin

1,679 posts

204 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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next order of nobusiness will be to tie the hands of future governments...

also their back on using madonna to mask current events so its going to be hard to see whats going on....

G_T

16,160 posts

196 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Lord Adonis

That is unquestionably the greatest name/title combination I have ever heard.

unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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jesusbuiltmycar said:
19. Sir Alan Sugar
20. Glennis Kinnock

Unelected and democratically unaccountable ministers who owe their positions and loyalty only to Gordon Brown…
Sugar is not a minister nor a member of the government. His appointment should be filed under "publicity stunt".

Puggit

48,768 posts

254 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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G_T said:
Lord Adonis

That is unquestionably the greatest name/title combination I have ever heard.
Previously part of the education dept under Blair.

Also used to be a member of the Lib Dems before switching to Labour. Never stood in an election...

Funk Odyssey

1,983 posts

235 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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G_T said:
Lord Adonis

That is unquestionably the greatest name/title combination I have ever heard.
and he's a geeky bald guy -- doesn't fit the name does it!

cazzer

8,883 posts

254 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Lord Adonis smile You couldn't make it up could ya? smile

Mikeyboy

5,018 posts

241 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Well anyone who thought the "reform" of the lords was about anything else but getting cronies into power was a left wing thinking, non fact reading fool.

before Bliars reforms the Lords had not been particularly partisan one way or another on the whole. Now though, more and more "Lords" are getting in as government (therefore Labour)appointees and with the reforms only half done they aren't due to leave, well, ever.

democracy is after all not the central tenate of the socialist manifesto.

G_T

16,160 posts

196 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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cazzer said:


Lord Adonis smile You couldn't make it up could ya? smile
Despite my heterosexuality I still find that picture incredibly dissapointing.

Jasandjules

70,419 posts

235 months

Friday 12th June 2009
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Mikeyboy said:
democracy is after all not the central tenate of the socialist manifesto.
Nor is freedom for the proles. Honesty. Decency. Honour. Equality for all. These things appear to bypass the lefties. It never ceases to amaze me that those who pretend to advocate such things don't appear to actually realise what they mean.