PMQ's Today - Give it a rest Brown

PMQ's Today - Give it a rest Brown

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Oakey

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27,759 posts

222 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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All he's banged on about for the last 30 minutes is proposed Tory cuts in public spending. Over and over and over and over and over....

It's tiring and boring. Does he honestly think the Tories are proposing cuts for things like Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, Police, etc?

dougc

8,240 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Its all he's got left and its been the mainstay of his (and Blairs) responses at PMQs for 12 years.

They'd be worse
They were worse
They'd be worse
They were worse
They'd be worse
They were worse
They'd be worse
They were worse
They'd be worse
They were worse
They'd be worse
They were worse
They'd be worse
They were worse
etc.

bridgdav

4,805 posts

254 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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DC getting body blows in now...

Much better than last week


[u]Brown drops another clanger..[/u]

"Before we get to the differenty issues that divide OUR party..." ((oops) cue- Lots of jeering)

Order, Order..

Should have said

"Divide our Parties.."

What an Ar$e again

Edited by bridgdav on Wednesday 10th June 12:56

SGirl

7,921 posts

267 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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And not to mention "I am not complacent..."!

TankRizzo

7,463 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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It's always the same. He thinks attack is the best form of defence, as if people will just forget all the problems with the government if he slates the Conservatives.

JJCW

2,449 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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I've got this image in my head of Brown babbling away thinking he's doing well, with 100 people behind him 'face-palming' inside... totally blank faced.

TankRizzo

7,463 posts

199 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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And it was summed up in the party political broadcast the other day.

Ten minutes telling me why I shouldn't vote for David Cameron, and nothing as to why I should vote Labour.

Jasandjules

70,419 posts

235 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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TankRizzo said:
And it was summed up in the party political broadcast the other day.

Ten minutes telling me why I shouldn't vote for David Cameron, and nothing as to why I should vote Labour.
Presumably because even they cannot think of a reason TO vote Labour.

ccgoose

37 posts

184 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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i just can't stand brown....not that the others appear to have much better credentials at the minute, but the tax dodging expenses claiming shoddy job of labour is getting on my nerves

maxrider

2,481 posts

242 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Oakey said:
Does he honestly think the Tories are proposing cuts for things like Doctors, Nurses, Teachers, Police, etc?
No, nor does anyone with an ounce of intelligence.

BUT, there are an awful lot of pigst thick tts that could believe him if he keeps repeating it often enough.

Labours election leaflet was packed with st about Tory cuts.

asbo

26,140 posts

220 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Jasandjules said:
TankRizzo said:
And it was summed up in the party political broadcast the other day.

Ten minutes telling me why I shouldn't vote for David Cameron, and nothing as to why I should vote Labour.
Presumably because even they cannot think of a reason TO vote Labour.
Other than; "we have much to learn", "we are listening", "we are not complai cent" ad infinitum ...

Not very confidence inspiring is it when they've already had 12 F*CKING YEARS!!!!!!! to do it properly.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

206 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Of course the tories will have to make cuts after the election, but so will Labour! You can see it already, the NHS complaining just last night that there is an 8-10 billion hole in funding beginning next year.

Remember that borrowing is going to shoot 40% of GDP to 100%. There's going to be cuts regardless. Forced cuts no matter what the party. He shouted down the guy from The Spectator (I think) last Friday who tried to pin the hole in the finances on him beginning next year.

It's clear Broon only has one club left in his bag, it is the old one, scare the public about the Tories, and tory cuts. And say it again and again and again, and say it enough maybe the public will believe it. It's shame the great bolus of the public are not grown up enough to be trusted with the truth. Never mind our standard of living is going to decline in any case, you can see that in the exchange rate and property prices already.

Edited by Northern Munkee on Wednesday 10th June 14:31

SGirl

7,921 posts

267 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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I do wish Brown wouldn't put his point by repeating things forcefully and then turning round and plonking himself down with a flourish before he's finished speaking!

And I wish he'd stop whittering on about how awful the country would be under the Conservatives. He goes on about them not having any policies - how does he think that works, then? The Conservatives just sit and wait to be handed power and then decide what they're going to do? Hardly. Brown is obviously an intelligent man - can he not realise that just because he hasn't heard about their policies, it doesn't mean they have none?

But most of all, I wish Brown would just go. And take his "government" with him.

Interesting that Cameron had a dig about Brown not having the guts to call an election, shame he didn't make more of it though. And Brown - of course - completely ignored him.

Edited by SGirl on Wednesday 10th June 14:43

Oakey

Original Poster:

27,759 posts

222 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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SGirl said:
I do wish Brown wouldn't put his point by repeating things forcefully and then turning round and plonking himself down with a flourish before he's finished speaking!

And I wish he'd stop whittering on about how awful the country would be under the Conservatives. He goes on about them not having any policies - how does he think that works, then? The Conservatives just sit and wait to be handed power and then decide what they're going to do? Hardly. Brown is obviously an intelligent man - can he not realise that just because he hasn't heard about their policies, it doesn't mean they have none?

But most of all, I wish Brown would just go. And take his "government" with him.

Interesting that Cameron had a dig about Brown not having the guts to call an election, shame he didn't make more of it though. And Brown - of course - completely ignored him.

Edited by SGirl on Wednesday 10th June 14:43
I particularly liked the part where Cameron said his first policy "would be to sack the Chancellor, something the PrimeMinister failed to do last week"

Zod

35,295 posts

264 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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£10bn/100k = 100,000. I wonder how many of the 1.5m NHS employees are non-medical staff earning £100k+. How many earn £50k+? I see plenty of scope for saving money. These people would cost less on benefits.

Mark Benson

7,725 posts

275 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Northern Munkee said:
It's clear Broon only has one club left in his bag, it is the old one, scare the public about the Tories, and tory cuts. And say it again and again and again, and say it enough maybe the public will believe it. It's shame the great bolus of the public are not grown up enough to be trusted with the truth. Never mind our standard of living is going to decline in any case, you can see that in the exchange rate and property prices already.
Since whoever takes control after the next election will have to cut public funding, Brown can claim he was right when CMD takes over and has to start his process of economic rebuilding, beginning with cutting back the more reckless of Winky's splurges (and I strongly suspect there'll be many more before he's through - the more he initiates, the more the next administration has to cut, fulfilling his promise that the Tories are nasty, baby-killing toffs who want to stop funding stuff for 'hard working families').

He's simply doing what his party told him to on Monday - start preparing for defeat, and try and make the 'wilderness years' as short as possible.

cs02rm0

13,812 posts

197 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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SGirl said:
Brown is obviously an intelligent man
I think you may be giving him far, far too much credit.

Don

28,377 posts

290 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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haworthlloyd1 said:
personally i would like to see cuts in public spending. i may be in the minority but its not me that benefits from most of it - its just my tax money that they use.

id like to see much lower taxes personally.
You'll see cuts in public spending. The next Government will have no choice. The national debt is beyond description and unless we turn into Zimbabwe will have to be repaid.

Sadly this also means higher taxes as well. Worse services and higher taxes. I just hope the sheeple remember exactly who to blame for that. Because it won't be the new administration.

andy400

10,724 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Today's PMQs: Never before have I come so close to smashing a TV set.......


(But a big thumbup and a clap for DC who I thought was splendid.)

turbobloke

106,848 posts

266 months

Wednesday 10th June 2009
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Based on this as folk will know:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1192077/Se...

What makes 10% enough? After health and education have been spared there's lots of room for bigger cuts with no discernible impact on service delivery.

There are pointless quangocrat dumping grounds for Labour cronies that would make a good starting point. As to the annual £6 billion estimated waste in the NHS, this list of job titles created by a GP from e-mails received in their PCT shows that if no cuts are planned then other reform is needed to make sure the money that is kept level or increased is used to best effect. Not so much that all in the list are pointless but the sheer weight of bureacracy is clear.

  • Communications Assistant
  • GP Directorate Manager
  • PA to Medical Director and PEC Chair
  • Assistant Director Commissioning & Informatics
  • Medical Directorate Administrator
  • Strategic Programmes Director
  • Primary Care Manager
  • Public Health Project Manager
  • Primary Care Commissioning Officer
  • Long Term Conditions Administrator
  • Resuscitation Educators
  • Communications officer (media & campaigns)
  • Senior Primary Care Commissioning Manager
  • Long Term Conditions Commissioning Manager
  • Commissioning Officer
  • PA to Head of Urgent Care
  • PA to Primary Care Commissioning
  • Head of Urgent Care
  • PA to Director of Commissioning & Informatics
  • Head of Clinical Quality (Commissioning)
  • Lead for Quality of care in care homes and End of Life Care
  • Locality Manager - Children's Community Service
  • Admin Support Primary Care Commissioning
  • Information Governance Manager
  • PA to Commissioning
  • Public Health Strategy Manager
  • Acting Co-ordinator (Substance Misuse)
  • Liaison Officer
  • Senior Administrator & Project Support
  • Primary Care (GP) Support and Development
  • Commissioning & Information Directorate
  • Public Health Nurse Consultant
  • Primary Care Development Manager
  • Intermediate Care Coordinator
  • Chief Executive
  • Communications Officer
  • Acting Deputy Chief Executive
  • Director of Strategic Development
  • Associate Director of HR
  • Assistant Director of Information
  • Primary Care Development Manager
  • Clinical Governance Admin Support
  • Knowledge Services
  • Director of Primary and Community Services
  • Public Health Analyst
  • Public Health Intelligence Team
  • Administration Support Officer
  • Sexual Health Commissioning
  • Service Development and Market Management
  • Commissioning Project Officer
  • Mental Health Commissioning Team
  • Temporary Clinical Quality Administrator for Primary Care Contractors
  • Primary Care Support and Development Manager
  • Clerical Officer
  • Senior Administrator & Project Support
  • Primary Care Commissioning
  • Assistant Directors Commissioning & Informatics
  • Core Learning Administrator
  • Employee & Organisational Development Team
  • Long Term Conditions Administration Officer
  • Public Health Administrator
  • Sexual Health Development Manager
  • Clinical Governance Administrator