Labour Apologists
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Randy Winkman said:
I voted Labour yesterday. I wouldn't normally, but I did it because of you.
I doubt you did it because of me. Given your previous posts you did it for other reasons.Read it and weep.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/elections/lo...
Gunny Sergeant D said:
Randy Winkman said:
I voted Labour yesterday. I wouldn't normally, but I did it because of you.
I doubt you did it because of me. Given your previous posts you did it for other reasons.Read it and weep.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/elections/lo...
I don't think I've ever said anything to support Brown or Labour until this thread, which with hindsight was a pointless and flippant comment, the result of a couple of G&Ts.
I'm quite happy to withdraw it.
I couldn't care less if Labour are being thrashed. They deserve it.
Randy Winkman said:
I couldn't care less if Labour are being thrashed. They deserve it.
Happy enough to agree with that last bit. The only worry now is whether or not the public can stay angry at them as long as the fat, useless, 
can delay a General Election.Right now, I expect that he'll have to be dragged from Number 10 some time next year.
Ace-T said:
TVR Moneypit said:
Front page of the telegraph today, HRH the Queen is taking advice on telling Gordon to call an election or she will dissolve parliment. 
One is not amused.
Paper? Or online, can't see it anywhere.One is not amused.
Trace
All I can say is that if it is true, then f
k me.
Very good!
Labour are looking so similar to the 1997 Tories that it's almost deja vu. Tory ineptitude gave way to sleaze (including jailings of senior figures) and middle England deserted their schismatic and crumbling party to close ranks behind Blair who rode into power on a landslide of ex-Tory votes.
The same people who changed from Tory to Labour back then have now moved back to Tory. Middle England are going to support Tories again as a schismatic and crumbling Labour party staggers from ineptitude to sleaze and now becomes so focussed on firefighting that any serious governing becomes abandoned. Tories will ride into power on a landslide of ex-Labour votes.
Soon Tories, unable to offer much in the way of improvement, will concentrate on constantly repeating that everything negative is the result of 12 years of Labour misrule, exactly as Labour blamed all woes on the years of Tory misrule.
For Middle England, apart from the freshness and variety of new governance, nothing will happen. Eventually sage agreement-nodding that all is Labour's fault will no longer suffice, and will give way to the first stirrings of grumbling against New Tory inefficacy. And I don't think it is seriously possible to say that Cameron and his New Tories have anything like the strong charisma of Blair or the gravitas of his 1997 accomplices as they commenced governance.
If you want to call that Labour apologism then please do. New Labour were a blessed relief from the Tory nightmare and New Tories will be a blessed relief from the Labour nightmare. But Tory backers may as well face up to it, their party has very very little to offer and before long they'll be shown to be at least as inept as what they'll replace.
For a long long time the floaters have continued to vote Labour because there's been no alternative. What's changed? Only that Labour are now despised. And the very first thing I foresee is that the current elections will be shown to have had a TINY turnout, because a growing majority, whilst actively disliking Labour, don't see anything better elsewhere. They just won't be voting anymore, and that's hardly a glowing endorsement of something wonderful in Toryland.
The same people who changed from Tory to Labour back then have now moved back to Tory. Middle England are going to support Tories again as a schismatic and crumbling Labour party staggers from ineptitude to sleaze and now becomes so focussed on firefighting that any serious governing becomes abandoned. Tories will ride into power on a landslide of ex-Labour votes.
Soon Tories, unable to offer much in the way of improvement, will concentrate on constantly repeating that everything negative is the result of 12 years of Labour misrule, exactly as Labour blamed all woes on the years of Tory misrule.
For Middle England, apart from the freshness and variety of new governance, nothing will happen. Eventually sage agreement-nodding that all is Labour's fault will no longer suffice, and will give way to the first stirrings of grumbling against New Tory inefficacy. And I don't think it is seriously possible to say that Cameron and his New Tories have anything like the strong charisma of Blair or the gravitas of his 1997 accomplices as they commenced governance.
If you want to call that Labour apologism then please do. New Labour were a blessed relief from the Tory nightmare and New Tories will be a blessed relief from the Labour nightmare. But Tory backers may as well face up to it, their party has very very little to offer and before long they'll be shown to be at least as inept as what they'll replace.
For a long long time the floaters have continued to vote Labour because there's been no alternative. What's changed? Only that Labour are now despised. And the very first thing I foresee is that the current elections will be shown to have had a TINY turnout, because a growing majority, whilst actively disliking Labour, don't see anything better elsewhere. They just won't be voting anymore, and that's hardly a glowing endorsement of something wonderful in Toryland.
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