I thought my vote was secret?
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aussiebruce

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452 posts

206 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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I voted last night, walked in and handed the card with my name on to a bloke sitting at the desk. He writes the number off the card on to his list.

Girl hands me a long yellow voting slip and gives the guy the number off the slip, which he writes down next to the reference number off my card?

Now you don’t have to be too smart to figure someone will pick a voting slip up, look down the list and see who voted for whom.

Seriously am I correct in my assumption or do I have it totally wrong and there is another explanation for it?

RichBurley

2,432 posts

269 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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aussiebruce said:
I voted last night, walked in and handed the card with my name on to a bloke sitting at the desk. He writes the number off the card on to his list.

Girl hands me a long yellow voting slip and gives the guy the number off the slip, which he writes down next to the reference number off my card?

Now you don’t have to be too smart to figure someone will pick a voting slip up, look down the list and see who voted for whom.

Seriously am I correct in my assumption or do I have it totally wrong and there is another explanation for it?
You are correct. The vote is secret in that your next door neighbour doesn't know who you voted for, unless you tell him. Or your next door neighbour has the list of reference codes for every voter in the country, and manages to find your particular voting card. Fortunately, it's not China here, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Simpo Two

89,229 posts

281 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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I wonder if it's all worth it. 'Voting' gave us the mess we currently have - not surprising when you combine the proportion of idiots who vote and the machinations of politicians after that.

Being on the electoral register means you simply become a number and have to pay tax. Frankly I'm struggling to think of any benefits right now.

Hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

256 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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Unfortunately stupid people get to vote as well.

aussiebruce

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452 posts

206 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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[/quote]You are correct. The vote is secret in that your next door neighbour doesn't know who you voted for, unless you tell him. Or your next door neighbour has the list of reference codes for every voter in the country, and manages to find your particular voting card. Fortunately, it's not China here, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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TBH I don't mind if my neighbour knows how I vote. It's the people that want to know that I don't want to know?

I'm not sure why I don't want them to know, I just don't.


bridgdav

4,805 posts

264 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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My voting slip didn't have any reference number on it.. The numbers on the Card put through your door refer to the person. How can they check back to refer which non referenced number voting slip, coincided with your name and address..?

Adenauer

18,863 posts

252 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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Simpo Two said:
I wonder if it's all worth it. 'Voting' gave us the mess we currently have
Not voting would help to retain it wink

aussiebruce

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452 posts

206 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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I'm sure it did. a small 6 digit (I think)number right on the top of the slip.

NiceCupOfTea

25,424 posts

267 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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O/T but vaguely relevant:

Why is there always an old dear on the door asking for your voting card on the way out? Is it some way of estimating numbers who have voted, are they recycling it for you, or are they just nosey and getting your name/address for free?

Fish

4,017 posts

298 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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They certainly had our local counciller post sawn up there was only TWO candidates, Conservative and Lib Dem

onomatopoeia

3,512 posts

233 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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NiceCupOfTea said:
O/T but vaguely relevant:

Why is there always an old dear on the door asking for your voting card on the way out? Is it some way of estimating numbers who have voted, are they recycling it for you, or are they just nosey and getting your name/address for free?
They (for there are sometimes more than one) are members of the main political parties. What they are doing is collecting the numbers of the people who have voted so they can see if any local members of the party they belong to have not voted - those that haven't will get a phone call in the evening to suggest they make their way to the polling station.

You are not obliged to show them your card (indeed you are not obliged to bring your card with you to vote), they are nothing to do with the official voting process.

Tony*T3

20,911 posts

263 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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aussiebruce said:
I voted last night, walked in and handed the card with my name on to a bloke sitting at the desk. He writes the number off the card on to his list.

Girl hands me a long yellow voting slip and gives the guy the number off the slip, which he writes down next to the reference number off my card?

Now you don’t have to be too smart to figure someone will pick a voting slip up, look down the list and see who voted for whom.

Seriously am I correct in my assumption or do I have it totally wrong and there is another explanation for it?
Why on earht is an Aussie voting in UK elections anyway.....? wink


Votes are confidential I beleive, not secret.


I had no voting card for them to read a number off, they just got it from another list.

aussiebruce

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452 posts

206 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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Tony*T3 said:
aussiebruce said:
I voted last night, walked in and handed the card with my name on to a bloke sitting at the desk. He writes the number off the card on to his list.

Girl hands me a long yellow voting slip and gives the guy the number off the slip, which he writes down next to the reference number off my card?

Now you don’t have to be too smart to figure someone will pick a voting slip up, look down the list and see who voted for whom.

Seriously am I correct in my assumption or do I have it totally wrong and there is another explanation for it?
Why on earht is an Aussie voting in UK elections anyway.....? wink


Votes are confidential I beleive, not secret.


I had no voting card for them to read a number off, they just got it from another list.
1) 'cause you guys can't get it right

2) I even made sure i said whom instead of who and the diction police still get me

3) so they got your reference number off another list. same result.

cazzer

8,883 posts

264 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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Not as worrying as the fact they only ever give you a pencil...not a pen.

Jasandjules

71,129 posts

245 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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Yes, if someone who was powercraved and a control freak with marxist aspirations wanted (thank goodness we don't have any of them in Govt/Power) they could determine exactly who voted for which party.

It was something I questioned the first time I ever voted - but the answer given was that this is to prevent people claiming they are someone else and voting and so they have a count of votes which can be checked against the number of votes in the boxes taken from each station to ensure all boxes (and the votes inside) are counted.

smack

9,755 posts

207 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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Tony*T3 said:
Why on earht is an Aussie voting in UK elections anyway.....? wink
Thanks to the Representation of the People Act 1918 (allowing Commonwealth citizens to vote in UK elections), he can.... And as aussiebruce lives here, I guess he actually cares about what goes on in this country...

F i F

46,905 posts

267 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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There is also the option that if somebody spoilt the ballot paper in a particular way which I won't go into here, then the secret squirrels can figure who it was and deal with it.

I leave it to your fevered imaginations what that means.

SirTainly

904 posts

227 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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Tony*T3 said:
Votes are confidential I beleive, not secret.
So you need SC clearance to vote ??? laugh

Uncle Fester

3,114 posts

224 months

Friday 5th June 2009
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The worrying thing isn’t them figuring out who voted for which party.

Remember a book called ‘Spycatcher’ by Peter Wright? All the fuss the government made trying to get it banned. The allegations the government said they were trying to ban it for were small stuff.

There were other things Wright claimed to have had knowledge of. The involvement of some MI6 officers in the fixing of a British general election was one.


aussiebruce

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452 posts

206 months

Saturday 6th June 2009
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How can they fix it if the slips are numbered?