So when Gordon Brown goes...

[Ayahuasca]

...how long before it's 'poor old Gordon, humble upbringing, did his best, took the blame, bless him , he was a good sort really'....?


I give it seventy or eighty years.

[SGirl]

Depends who you ask. Some of his Cabinet are so keen on him that they'll be spouting similar lines before his chair's got cold.

[TankRizzo]

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

[Einion Yrth]

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

Only the last 50? I sincerely hope that history is rather less forgiving than that.

[anonymous-user]

Shortest time as PM in modern history.

MPs allowances.

This recession.

Those in charge usually get remembered for what went on during their time in office.

[Invisible man]

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

One?!! I can't think of anyone else as bad

[JMGS4]

Brown will never go of his own free will, he'll have to be dragged kicking and screaming as do all socialist dictators (Stalin is his idol!)
And hopefully he'll be remmebered as the worst PM Britain has EVER had.. worse than bLIAR, worse than Wilson... bunch of hypocritical twunts the lot of 'em.

Edited by JMGS4 on Wednesday 3rd June 13:17

[nonegreen]

Invisible man said:

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

One?!! I can't think of anyone else as bad

What a short memory you have I'd get checked out if I were you.

Let me remind you

Thatcher: Destroy manufacturing cos the unions got her kicked out of gummint when she was a minister, oh and fk the education system cos the teachers and guardian readers got her nicknamed the milk snatcher.

Blair: every singe piece of legislation the man introduced was rubbish well, almost. He has left a legacy of sillines and he was a fraud and a liar and a catholic to boot, so his entire premiership was illegal.

Heath: Nice man but bloody spineless and he took us into europe

Callaghan: Probably the most easily forgettable PM ever

Wilson: The worlds second most stupid man anfter David Begg. He told the world he was going to devalue the pound ....... The prick

Macmillan At least for a change Conservative MPs were fking little girls and not boys. This prick presided over Profumo and had no influence on the cuban missile crisis.

Eden: Suez... Mountbatten radioed "Have guns trained on Ciaro" and the wker bottled it. We would heve been oil rich 10 years early.

Atlee: Almost as stupid as Brown, Tax and squander, the only difference being he didn't actually use our money as lavatory roll before throwing it away.

Chamberlain: How Hitler must have laughed at this tosser...

Churchill: He used the road fund license to fund other things the bd....

Pitt: Introduced income tax.. It went downhill from then...

[AMacA]

nonegreen said:

Invisible man said:

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

One?!! I can't think of anyone else as bad

What a short memory you have I'd get checked out if I were you.

Let me remind you

Thatcher: Destroy manufacturing cos the unions got her kicked out of gummint when she was a minister, oh and fk the education system cos the teachers and guardian readers got her nicknamed the milk snatcher.

Blair: every singe piece of legislation the man introduced was rubbish well, almost. He has left a legacy of sillines and he was a fraud and a liar and a catholic to boot, so his entire premiership was illegal.

Heath: Nice man but bloody spineless and he took us into europe

Callaghan: Probably the most easily forgettable PM ever

Wilson: The worlds second most stupid man anfter David Begg. He told the world he was going to devalue the pound ....... The prick

Macmillan At least for a change Conservative MPs were fking little girls and not boys. This prick presided over Profumo and had no influence on the cuban missile crisis.

Eden: Suez... Mountbatten radioed "Have guns trained on Ciaro" and the wker bottled it. We would heve been oil rich 10 years early.

Atlee: Almost as stupid as Brown, Tax and squander, the only difference being he didn't actually use our money as lavatory roll before throwing it away.

Chamberlain: How Hitler must have laughed at this tosser...

Churchill: He used the road fund license to fund other things the bd....

Pitt: Introduced income tax.. It went downhill from then...

Can you clarify the relevance of the bold bit please?

[Invisible man]

nonegreen said:

Invisible man said:

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

One?!! I can't think of anyone else as bad

What a short memory you have I'd get checked out if I were you.

Let me remind you

Thatcher: Destroy manufacturing cos the unions got her kicked out of gummint when she was a minister, oh and fk the education system cos the teachers and guardian readers got her nicknamed the milk snatcher.

Blair: every singe piece of legislation the man introduced was rubbish well, almost. He has left a legacy of sillines and he was a fraud and a liar and a catholic to boot, so his entire premiership was illegal.

Heath: Nice man but bloody spineless and he took us into europe

Callaghan: Probably the most easily forgettable PM ever

Wilson: The worlds second most stupid man anfter David Begg. He told the world he was going to devalue the pound ....... The prick

Macmillan At least for a change Conservative MPs were fking little girls and not boys. This prick presided over Profumo and had no influence on the cuban missile crisis.

Eden: Suez... Mountbatten radioed "Have guns trained on Ciaro" and the wker bottled it. We would heve been oil rich 10 years early.

Atlee: Almost as stupid as Brown, Tax and squander, the only difference being he didn't actually use our money as lavatory roll before throwing it away.

Chamberlain: How Hitler must have laughed at this tosser...

Churchill: He used the road fund license to fund other things the bd....

Pitt: Introduced income tax.. It went downhill from then...

nope, still stand by what I said they were bad, some even had some redeeming features, Chamberlain and the housing and factories acts. Thatchers economic reform. Wilson....er....but no one is as completely rounded as Winky when it comes to being a complete and utter industrial strength, grade A, clusterfk of a disaster

[Martial Arts Man]

Atlee Vs Brown is the only contest imho.

Quite how bad Brown's legacy will be dependant upon the future. His economic genius, as an example, can't be judged for the purpose of this debate for many years to come.

My money's still on McBroon.

Bookmark this thread and we'll come back to it in 20 years time (min.).

[Zod]

nonegreen said:

Invisible man said:

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

One?!! I can't think of anyone else as bad

What a short memory you have I'd get checked out if I were you.

Let me remind you

Thatcher: Destroy manufacturing cos the unions got her kicked out of gummint when she was a minister, oh and fk the education system cos the teachers and guardian readers got her nicknamed the milk snatcher.

Blair: every singe piece of legislation the man introduced was rubbish well, almost. He has left a legacy of sillines and he was a fraud and a liar and a catholic to boot, so his entire premiership was illegal.

Heath: Nice man but bloody spineless and he took us into europe

Callaghan: Probably the most easily forgettable PM ever

Wilson: The worlds second most stupid man anfter David Begg. He told the world he was going to devalue the pound ....... The prick

Macmillan At least for a change Conservative MPs were fking little girls and not boys. This prick presided over Profumo and had no influence on the cuban missile crisis.

Eden: Suez... Mountbatten radioed "Have guns trained on Ciaro" and the wker bottled it. We would heve been oil rich 10 years early.

Atlee: Almost as stupid as Brown, Tax and squander, the only difference being he didn't actually use our money as lavatory roll before throwing it away.

Chamberlain: How Hitler must have laughed at this tosser...

Churchill: He used the road fund license to fund other things the bd....

Pitt: Introduced income tax.. It went downhill from then...

Like most idiots, there is osme sense in what you say, but an awful lot of utter rubbish.

A few things at random (I won't bother with atttacking the cliched "Thatcher destroyed manufacturing crap"):

So bloody what if Blair is now (he wasn't then) catholic?

If you had read anything about Heath you would know that he was not a nice man at all.

Callaghan was left with an impossible position by Wilson and actually did some good. Brown would do well to heed his words that you can't spend your way out of recession.

Macmillan - Mandy Rice-Davies and Christine Keeler were adults. Name a single Tory paedophile MP. It was Mark Oaten, a LibDem who was doing rent boys "because of stress".

Eden - of course the Americans would just have stood by.

[ypauly]

SGirl said:

Depends who you ask. Some of his Cabinet are so keen on him that they'll be spouting similar lines before his chair's got cold.

The chair won't ever be cold if they let me do the wiring

[nonegreen]

Zod said:

nonegreen said:

Invisible man said:

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

One?!! I can't think of anyone else as bad

What a short memory you have I'd get checked out if I were you.

Let me remind you

Thatcher: Destroy manufacturing cos the unions got her kicked out of gummint when she was a minister, oh and fk the education system cos the teachers and guardian readers got her nicknamed the milk snatcher.

Blair: every singe piece of legislation the man introduced was rubbish well, almost. He has left a legacy of sillines and he was a fraud and a liar and a catholic to boot, so his entire premiership was illegal.

Heath: Nice man but bloody spineless and he took us into europe

Callaghan: Probably the most easily forgettable PM ever

Wilson: The worlds second most stupid man anfter David Begg. He told the world he was going to devalue the pound ....... The prick

Macmillan At least for a change Conservative MPs were fking little girls and not boys. This prick presided over Profumo and had no influence on the cuban missile crisis.

Eden: Suez... Mountbatten radioed "Have guns trained on Ciaro" and the wker bottled it. We would heve been oil rich 10 years early.

Atlee: Almost as stupid as Brown, Tax and squander, the only difference being he didn't actually use our money as lavatory roll before throwing it away.

Chamberlain: How Hitler must have laughed at this tosser...

Churchill: He used the road fund license to fund other things the bd....

Pitt: Introduced income tax.. It went downhill from then...

Like most idiots, there is osme sense in what you say, but an awful lot of utter rubbish.

A few things at random (I won't bother with atttacking the cliched "Thatcher destroyed manufacturing crap"):

So bloody what if Blair is now (he wasn't then) catholic?

If you had read anything about Heath you would know that he was not a nice man at all.

Callaghan was left with an impossible position by Wilson and actually did some good. Brown would do well to heed his words that you can't spend your way out of recession.

Macmillan - Mandy Rice-Davies and Christine Keeler were adults. Name a single Tory paedophile MP. It was Mark Oaten, a LibDem who was doing rent boys "because of stress".

Eden - of course the Americans would just have stood by.

Well I have always thought I was an idiot but at least I am not an ignorant tt!

It is at present illegal for a catholic to be prime minister in the UK (So it should be we only started to make progress when Henry 8 told the papist tossers to stay away or he would behead them).

Mandy Rice-Davies and Christine Keeler were 15 and 16 years old respectively when Profumo was introduced. He may not have been in the strictest sense a Paedo but middle aged men shagging teenage girls is wrong and for a member of the cabinet it falls way way below the standards we expect and deserve.

Heaths Biography was a bit one sided, very many political contempories are on record as describing him as a nice man.

We have no means of second guessing the Americans response. Have you been to America? Do you know what Americans think about the UK?

Callaghan was a gentleman farmer and his policies were reactive, following 15 years of piss poor government by Heath and Wilson. In fairness though like Major he was a consensus politician and I concede that perhaps he does not belong among the truly st PMs I have listed.

[Zod]

nonegreen said:

Zod said:

nonegreen said:

Invisible man said:

TankRizzo said:

I quite honestly think history will remember him as one of the poorest PMs in the last 50 years.

One?!! I can't think of anyone else as bad

What a short memory you have I'd get checked out if I were you.

Let me remind you

Thatcher: Destroy manufacturing cos the unions got her kicked out of gummint when she was a minister, oh and fk the education system cos the teachers and guardian readers got her nicknamed the milk snatcher.

Blair: every singe piece of legislation the man introduced was rubbish well, almost. He has left a legacy of sillines and he was a fraud and a liar and a catholic to boot, so his entire premiership was illegal.

Heath: Nice man but bloody spineless and he took us into europe

Callaghan: Probably the most easily forgettable PM ever

Wilson: The worlds second most stupid man anfter David Begg. He told the world he was going to devalue the pound ....... The prick

Macmillan At least for a change Conservative MPs were fking little girls and not boys. This prick presided over Profumo and had no influence on the cuban missile crisis.

Eden: Suez... Mountbatten radioed "Have guns trained on Ciaro" and the wker bottled it. We would heve been oil rich 10 years early.

Atlee: Almost as stupid as Brown, Tax and squander, the only difference being he didn't actually use our money as lavatory roll before throwing it away.

Chamberlain: How Hitler must have laughed at this tosser...

Churchill: He used the road fund license to fund other things the bd....

Pitt: Introduced income tax.. It went downhill from then...

Like most idiots, there is osme sense in what you say, but an awful lot of utter rubbish.

A few things at random (I won't bother with atttacking the cliched "Thatcher destroyed manufacturing crap"):

So bloody what if Blair is now (he wasn't then) catholic?

If you had read anything about Heath you would know that he was not a nice man at all.

Callaghan was left with an impossible position by Wilson and actually did some good. Brown would do well to heed his words that you can't spend your way out of recession.

Macmillan - Mandy Rice-Davies and Christine Keeler were adults. Name a single Tory paedophile MP. It was Mark Oaten, a LibDem who was doing rent boys "because of stress".

Eden - of course the Americans would just have stood by.

Well I have always thought I was an idiot but at least I am not an ignorant tt!

It is at present illegal for a catholic to be prime minister in the UK (So it should be we only started to make progress when Henry 8 told the papist tossers to stay away or he would behead them).

No, it is not illegal, you cretin. It has not been illegal since the Catholic Relief Act of 1829.

nonegreen said:

Mandy Rice-Davies and Christine Keeler were 15 and 16 years old respectively when Profumo was introduced. He may not have been in the strictest sense a Paedo but middle aged men shagging teenage girls is wrong and for a member of the cabinet it falls way way below the standards we expect and deserve.

So you're not going to address the falsehood of your comment about Tories shagging little boys.

nonegreen said:

Heaths Biography was a bit one sided, very many political contempories are on record as describing him as a nice man.

and far more describe him as a sociopathic bore.

nonegreen said:

We have no means of second guessing the Americans response. Have you been to America? Do you know what Americans think about the UK?

What a bizarre response. Try reading some history.

nonegreen said:

Callaghan was a gentleman farmer and his policies were reactive, following 15 years of piss poor government by Heath and Wilson. In fairness though like Major he was a consensus politician and I concede that perhaps he does not belong among the truly st PMs I have listed.

[Legend83]

Zod said:

No, it is not illegal, you cretin. It has not been illegal since the Catholic Relief Act of 1829.

Check out Zod's occupation....you tried to be clever with the wrong guy.

[unrepentant]

nonegreen said:

Mandy Rice-Davies and Christine Keeler were 15 and 16 years old respectively when Profumo was introduced. He may not have been in the strictest sense a Paedo but middle aged men shagging teenage girls is wrong and for a member of the cabinet it falls way way below the standards we expect and deserve.
not belong among the truly st PMs I have listed.

Christine Keeler was born in 1942 and met Profumo in 1961. Which would make her 19..... Rice - Davies was born in 1944 and didn't even move to London until she was 16. She reportedly never met even Profumo, let alone "shagged" him.

Before calling someone else an ingnorant tt, which you have done on this thread, you should check your facts as the only person who looks both ignorant and a tt here is you.

[colonel c]

Don't for get me. I shagged Edwina Curry. I did!!!

[Mclovin]

i think history will show that bliar was the worst pm and brown was the worst ever chancellor....hopefully the idea of an ever expanding infinite state will never come up again....

[srebbe64]

I have mixed feelings. On the one hand I hope GB goes asap. Here's someone, who, during the good years put it down to his economic prowess. However, during the bad years it was due to 'the world economy' - he can't have it both ways. Also, the fact that one of his closest advisers was recently caught 'making up sleaze allegations' against opponents tells you something about the culture which he's presided over. On the other hand, if GB goes the Labour spin machine will be saying 'give the new bloke a chance!'. And the electorate might just be foolish enough to take the bate!