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Fittster

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20,120 posts

219 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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A prominent US abortion doctor has been shot dead at his church in Wichita, Kansas, city officials say.

Sixty-seven year-old George Tiller was killed just after 1000 (1500 GMT) at the Reformation Lutheran Church.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8076253....

You'd think people could grasp that abortions are useful method of controlling the scrot population.

Buffalo

5,453 posts

260 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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Fittster said:
You'd think people could grasp that abortions are useful method of controlling the scrot population.
Or maybe, that it's just no one else's f@cking business! mad

FM

5,816 posts

226 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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Fittster said:
A prominent US abortion doctor has been shot dead ..

You'd think people could grasp that abortions are useful method of controlling the scrot population.
The last vestiges of morality in humanity go downhill fast within a society when it is considered OK to end a life before it is even given a chance ...especially when it is linked to an economic demographic.




Edited by FM on Sunday 31st May 20:54

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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FM said:
Fittster said:
A prominent US abortion doctor has been shot dead ..

You'd think people could grasp that abortions are useful method of controlling the scrot population.
The last vestiges of morality in humanity go downhill fast within a society when it is considered OK to end a life before it is even given a chance ...especially when it is linked to an economic demographic.




Edited by FM on Sunday 31st May 20:54
Given that there are many many societies that have practiced infanticide, for a variety of reasons over thousands of years, you will have to do more than merely assert that.

ofcorsa

3,535 posts

249 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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FM said:
Fittster said:
A prominent US abortion doctor has been shot dead ..

You'd think people could grasp that abortions are useful method of controlling the scrot population.
The last vestiges of morality in humanity go downhill fast within a society when it is considered OK to end a life before it is even given a chance ...especially when it is linked to an economic demographic.




Edited by FM on Sunday 31st May 20:54
source?

Jasandjules

70,419 posts

235 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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Buffalo said:
Fittster said:
You'd think people could grasp that abortions are useful method of controlling the scrot population.
Or maybe, that it's just no one else's f@cking business! mad
Indeed it's not. Having a child is no-one's business but the two people who created it.

JamesIIIII

2,235 posts

214 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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This guy was involed with "late term abortion" i.e when the foetus is beyond 20 weeks of development, the foetus can survive outside the womb at this stage.

Killing him isn't the answer, but it's pretty understandable why he had a lot of people against what he did, which was basically killing unborn children.

Edited by JamesIIIII on Sunday 31st May 22:37

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?

968

12,000 posts

254 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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JamesIIIII said:
This guy was involed with "late term abortion" i.e when the foetus is beyond 20 weeks of development, the foetus can survive outside the womb at this stage.

Killing him isn't the answer, but it's pretty understandable why he had a lot of people against what he did, which was basically killing unborn children.

Edited by JamesIIIII on Sunday 31st May 22:37
Er no. At 20 weeks the foetus is in no way viable or likely to survive. Even at 28 weeks it's not a great prognosis.

Fittster

Original Poster:

20,120 posts

219 months

Sunday 31st May 2009
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FM said:
Fittster said:
A prominent US abortion doctor has been shot dead ..

You'd think people could grasp that abortions are useful method of controlling the scrot population.
The last vestiges of morality in humanity go downhill fast within a society when it is considered OK to end a life before it is even given a chance ...especially when it is linked to an economic demographic.
Legalized abortion and crime effect

whitechief

4,428 posts

201 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?
Very much so.

ludo

5,308 posts

210 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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whitechief said:
Eric Mc said:
Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?
Very much so.
If you knew what he was going to do, would you have shot Hilter in 1935 if you had the chance? Not that the murder of the doctor was in anyway defensible, but it isn't that ironic given a moments thought.

Jasandjules

70,419 posts

235 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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ludo said:
If you knew what he was going to do, would you have shot Hilter in 1935 if you had the chance? Not that the murder of the doctor was in anyway defensible, but it isn't that ironic given a moments thought.
Doctors also save lives............

ludo

5,308 posts

210 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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Jasandjules said:
ludo said:
If you knew what he was going to do, would you have shot Hilter in 1935 if you had the chance? Not that the murder of the doctor was in anyway defensible, but it isn't that ironic given a moments thought.
Doctors also save lives............
Yes, I know that, however there is still no irony in pro-lifers killing someone they consider to be a mass murderer and likely to continue to be a mass murderer, especially if the number of lives this particular doctor was likely to save would be less than the number of abortions he was likely to perform. Their actions were rational IF you accept their premises, however I for one do not.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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ludo said:
whitechief said:
Eric Mc said:
Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?
Very much so.
If you knew what he was going to do, would you have shot Hilter in 1935 if you had the chance? Not that the murder of the doctor was in anyway defensible, but it isn't that ironic given a moments thought.
Ahem - the ironic point is that the person who did the killing claims to be "pro-life".

I'm not making any comment on whether the doctor "deserved to die" or not.
Personally, he didn't - but that's my opinion - and of course, murder is against the law, even in America.

ludo

5,308 posts

210 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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Eric Mc said:
ludo said:
whitechief said:
Eric Mc said:
Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?
Very much so.
If you knew what he was going to do, would you have shot Hilter in 1935 if you had the chance? Not that the murder of the doctor was in anyway defensible, but it isn't that ironic given a moments thought.
Ahem - the ironic point is that the person who did the killing claims to be "pro-life".
Yes, I know, the point I was making was that there is no irony. Someone who was "pro-life" might also be willing to shoot Hilter in 1935 because of the lives that would save. I would have thought the analogy was pretty straightforward.

Eric Mc said:
I'm not making any comment on whether the doctor "deserved to die" or not.
Personally, he didn't - but that's my opinion - and of course, murder is against the law, even in America.
yes However, to err is human, even if he did deserve to die, that doesn't mean he should or that anyone should take the matter into their own hands.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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ludo said:
Eric Mc said:
ludo said:
whitechief said:
Eric Mc said:
Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?
Very much so.
If you knew what he was going to do, would you have shot Hilter in 1935 if you had the chance? Not that the murder of the doctor was in anyway defensible, but it isn't that ironic given a moments thought.
Ahem - the ironic point is that the person who did the killing claims to be "pro-life".
Yes, I know, the point I was making was that there is no irony. Someone who was "pro-life" might also be willing to shoot Hilter in 1935 because of the lives that would save. I would have thought the analogy was pretty straightforward.

Eric Mc said:
I'm not making any comment on whether the doctor "deserved to die" or not.
Personally, he didn't - but that's my opinion - and of course, murder is against the law, even in America.
yes However, to err is human, even if he did deserve to die, that doesn't mean he should or that anyone should take the matter into their own hands.
I see what you mean - but the target in this case was chosen SPECIFICALLY because he was involved in the area the murderer was cmapaigning about-
not just because he was a "bad man".
The ironic link is just that bit stronger.

motco

16,177 posts

252 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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Eric Mc said:
Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?
He wasn't killed, it was a case of exteme late-term abortion.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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That would make it even more ironic for an anti-abortionist.

ludo

5,308 posts

210 months

Monday 1st June 2009
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Eric Mc said:
ludo said:
Eric Mc said:
ludo said:
whitechief said:
Eric Mc said:
Isn't it ironic that an extreme pro-life protagonist thinks it's OK to kill someone?
Very much so.
If you knew what he was going to do, would you have shot Hilter in 1935 if you had the chance? Not that the murder of the doctor was in anyway defensible, but it isn't that ironic given a moments thought.
Ahem - the ironic point is that the person who did the killing claims to be "pro-life".
Yes, I know, the point I was making was that there is no irony. Someone who was "pro-life" might also be willing to shoot Hilter in 1935 because of the lives that would save. I would have thought the analogy was pretty straightforward.

Eric Mc said:
I'm not making any comment on whether the doctor "deserved to die" or not.
Personally, he didn't - but that's my opinion - and of course, murder is against the law, even in America.
yes However, to err is human, even if he did deserve to die, that doesn't mean he should or that anyone should take the matter into their own hands.
I see what you mean - but the target in this case was chosen SPECIFICALLY because he was involved in the area the murderer was cmapaigning about-
not just because he was a "bad man".
Errr, I doubt that was their view.