Chris Lewis gets 13 years for cocaine smuggling.

[johnfm]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/art...

Seems a bit disproportionate for a first offence - especially when compared to other, recent sentences.

[ludo]

johnfm said:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/art...

Seems a bit disproportionate for a first offence - especially when compared to other, recent sentences.

and that he claims he was framed by the other bloke (although he would say that wouldn't he?). Bloody stupid to take anything through customs for someone else though!

[hornetrider]

Jesus that is well harsh. You get less for rape and manslaughter. Crazy. He must surely appeal the sentence.

[Down Hill Racer]

although from what i've heard.... he'll quite like the action he'll get in the showers

[Down Hill Racer]

hornetrider said:

Jesus that is well harsh. You get less for rape and manslaughter. Crazy. He must surely appeal the sentence.

rape or murder potentially ruins only one life.... smuggling as much drugs has he did will potentially ruin many more lives

[johnfm]

Down Hill Racer said:

hornetrider said:

Jesus that is well harsh. You get less for rape and manslaughter. Crazy. He must surely appeal the sentence.

rape or murder potentially ruins only one life.... smuggling as much drugs has he did will potentially ruin many more lives

or ruin none at all.

Potential ruin is no basis for sentencing, is it?

[okgo]

Down Hill Racer said:

hornetrider said:

Jesus that is well harsh. You get less for rape and manslaughter. Crazy. He must surely appeal the sentence.

rape or murder potentially ruins only one life.... smuggling as much drugs has he did will potentially ruin many more lives

You did read it said cocaine right..

[Glassman]

he had been asked to carry five tins of fruit juice by a friend:



Chad Kirnon claims that it was Lewis who had bought eight tins of juice and asked him to carry three.

Lewis suggests that Kirnon offered to shoulder the blame for £100,000.

A celebrity deathmatch in the making.

Edited by Glassman on Thursday 21st May 01:12

[fluffnik]

The problem is prohibition.

[alfabadass]

fluffnik said:

The problem is prohibition.

Cocaine isn't the same as Cannabis.

Drug dealing and smuggling carries hefty sentances. Previous convictions or not.

[Ayahuasca]

No sympathy.

[fluffnik]

alfabadass said:

fluffnik said:

The problem is prohibition.

Cocaine isn't the same as Cannabis.

Drug dealing and smuggling carries hefty sentances. Previous convictions or not.

No, but, like cannabis, all the associated problems are exacerbated by prohibition.

The problem is not recreational drugs.

The problem is prohibition.

[Down Hill Racer]

fluffnik said:

alfabadass said:

fluffnik said:

The problem is prohibition.

Cocaine isn't the same as Cannabis.

Drug dealing and smuggling carries hefty sentances. Previous convictions or not.

No, but, like cannabis, all the associated problems are exacerbated by prohibition.

The problem is not recreational drugs.

The problem is prohibition.

stick to sitting on it instead of talking out of it

[Down Hill Racer]

johnfm said:

Down Hill Racer said:

hornetrider said:

Jesus that is well harsh. You get less for rape and manslaughter. Crazy. He must surely appeal the sentence.

rape or murder potentially ruins only one life.... smuggling as much drugs has he did will potentially ruin many more lives

or ruin none at all.

Potential ruin is no basis for sentencing, is it?

if we take your point to its logical conclusion, nobody should be prosecuted for drug dealing then? because selling drugs doesn't mean those drugs will be taken and ruin lives yeah?

[Oakey]

Down Hill Racer said:

fluffnik said:

alfabadass said:

fluffnik said:

The problem is prohibition.

Cocaine isn't the same as Cannabis.

Drug dealing and smuggling carries hefty sentances. Previous convictions or not.

No, but, like cannabis, all the associated problems are exacerbated by prohibition.

The problem is not recreational drugs.

The problem is prohibition.

stick to sitting on it instead of talking out of it

It's a proven fact. Look at Amsterdam, where teens just aren't that interested in smoking Cannabis.

Edited by Oakey on Thursday 21st May 16:50

[Plotloss]

Down Hill Racer said:

because selling drugs doesn't mean those drugs will be taken and ruin lives yeah?

So by that rationale we should stop selling

knives
cars
guns
birdbaths (responsible for around 10 deaths annually)

and a whole host of other things?

[Oakey]

Down Hill Racer said:

johnfm said:

Down Hill Racer said:

hornetrider said:

Jesus that is well harsh. You get less for rape and manslaughter. Crazy. He must surely appeal the sentence.

rape or murder potentially ruins only one life.... smuggling as much drugs has he did will potentially ruin many more lives

or ruin none at all.

Potential ruin is no basis for sentencing, is it?

if we take your point to its logical conclusion, nobody should be prosecuted for drug dealing then? because selling drugs doesn't mean those drugs will be taken and ruin lives yeah?

Simple yes or no answer, should alcohol be banned?

[fluffnik]

Down Hill Racer said:

johnfm said:

Potential ruin is no basis for sentencing, is it?

if we take your point to its logical conclusion, nobody should be prosecuted for drug dealing then? because selling drugs doesn't mean those drugs will be taken and ruin lives yeah?

Correct.

Legalised drugs have quality control and are enjoyed by many, many more than they ruin.

Illegal drugs have no quality control and yet are still enjoyed by many, many more than they ruin.

Most of the (additional) harm done by illegal versus legal drugs is entirely down to their legal status.

Legalisation brings quality control (and tax revenue) and reduces the harm done.

[johnfm]

Down Hill Racer said:

fluffnik said:

alfabadass said:

fluffnik said:

The problem is prohibition.

Cocaine isn't the same as Cannabis.

Drug dealing and smuggling carries hefty sentances. Previous convictions or not.

No, but, like cannabis, all the associated problems are exacerbated by prohibition.

The problem is not recreational drugs.

The problem is prohibition.

stick to sitting on it instead of talking out of it

You are wrong.

Government supply and taxing of recreational drugs would deal a huge blow to organised crime, make the use less 'sensational' for teenagers and generate much needed revenue.

They govern and tax alcohol and tobacco. Why not pot, coke and smack (and prostitution while thye're at it).

[Scraggles]

recall the yanks tried prohibition with booze, pretty sure the mafia done very well by it