Dissolving Parliament

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cazzer

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8,883 posts

254 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Anyone else think that Lizzie should excercise her right as the monarch and dissolve this shower of st and let us have a general election?

Jasandjules

70,416 posts

235 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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No, I think we should get a large vat of hydrochloric acid, and dissolve those MPs found to be scamming.

Then small elections for their seats...

hornetrider

63,161 posts

211 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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cazzer said:
Anyone else think that Lizzie should excercise her right as the monarch and dissolve this shower of st and let us have a general election?
I was thinking the very same thing - somebody should petition the Queen. Step up to the plate Miss Lumley!

Martial Arts Man

6,625 posts

192 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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The problem is Maj was to dissolve Parliament is that at some point in the future, we are likely going to get another Labour administration.

They would seek revenge, make no mistake, on the crown.


Who knows what the feeling in the country will be come that time. Not worth the risk imho.

colonel c

7,899 posts

245 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Shirley! this is one of the negative attributes of having a non elected had of state. The Queen is in reality powerless to anything about the current mess we find ourselves in.
An elected head of state could have Dissolved Parliament over this, appointed a caretaker government to give all the major parties time in which to sort them selves out and then hold fresh elections.
As it is all the Queen can do is sit there and look glum.


Jasandjules

70,416 posts

235 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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colonel c said:
As it is all the Queen can do is sit there and look glum.

No. IN law, the Queen can do what she likes. It's by constitutional convention that she allows Parliament to set laws (which she has to sign off on), and Parliament to send troops to war (which again, is her right to stop and/or send them where she wants, they are hers, not Parliaments). Many powers exercised by the Prime Minister are the Queen's powers which she allows them to use. Consider when an election is won, the head of the party goes to the Queen where she asks them to form her Govt. She could quite easily not ask them.....

Invisible man

39,731 posts

290 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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cazzer said:
Anyone else think that Lizzie should excercise her right as the monarch and dissolve this shower of st and let us have a general election?
Definitely...I've mentioned it a couple of times myself. The current situation is untenable, those in power cannot make judgement over anyone once their own integrity has been brought into question surely?

Brink

1,505 posts

214 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Frankly, I'd like to dissolve Gordon Brown is an acid bath. It's not like doesn't deserve such a comeuppance.

But who would replace him?

colonel c

7,899 posts

245 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Jasandjules said:
colonel c said:
As it is all the Queen can do is sit there and look glum.

No. IN law, the Queen can do what she likes. It's by constitutional convention that she allows Parliament to set laws (which she has to sign off on), and Parliament to send troops to war (which again, is her right to stop and/or send them where she wants, they are hers, not Parliaments). Many powers exercised by the Prime Minister are the Queen's powers which she allows them to use. Consider when an election is won, the head of the party goes to the Queen where she asks them to form her Govt. She could quite easily not ask them.....
Yes It's all really rather quaint. In reality though, how big a constitutional crises would it take for her to exercise such powers?
Isn't the loss of faith of the public at large in virtually all of their members of parliament big enough?

In this day and age we need a written constitution and an elected head of state.

Invisible man

39,731 posts

290 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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colonel c said:
Jasandjules said:
colonel c said:
As it is all the Queen can do is sit there and look glum.

No. IN law, the Queen can do what she likes. It's by constitutional convention that she allows Parliament to set laws (which she has to sign off on), and Parliament to send troops to war (which again, is her right to stop and/or send them where she wants, they are hers, not Parliaments). Many powers exercised by the Prime Minister are the Queen's powers which she allows them to use. Consider when an election is won, the head of the party goes to the Queen where she asks them to form her Govt. She could quite easily not ask them.....
Yes It's all really rather quaint. In reality though, how big a constitutional crises would it take for her to exercise such powers?
Isn't the loss of faith of the public at large in virtually all of their members of parliament big enough?

In this day and age we need a written constitution and an elected head of state.
How does such a process begin? you can be assured no MP from any Party will set this ball rolling. How do we get Her Maj to step up to the plate?.....epetition?

grumbledoak

31,762 posts

239 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Jasandjules said:
No, I think we should get a large vat of hydrochloric acid, and dissolve those MPs found to be scamming.
Wouldn't it be more traditional to stick their heads on poles across Tower Bridge? Should do wonders for the tourist industry.

chris watton

22,478 posts

266 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Invisible man said:
colonel c said:
Jasandjules said:
colonel c said:
As it is all the Queen can do is sit there and look glum.

No. IN law, the Queen can do what she likes. It's by constitutional convention that she allows Parliament to set laws (which she has to sign off on), and Parliament to send troops to war (which again, is her right to stop and/or send them where she wants, they are hers, not Parliaments). Many powers exercised by the Prime Minister are the Queen's powers which she allows them to use. Consider when an election is won, the head of the party goes to the Queen where she asks them to form her Govt. She could quite easily not ask them.....
Yes It's all really rather quaint. In reality though, how big a constitutional crises would it take for her to exercise such powers?
Isn't the loss of faith of the public at large in virtually all of their members of parliament big enough?

In this day and age we need a written constitution and an elected head of state.
How does such a process begin? you can be assured no MP from any Party will set this ball rolling. How do we get Her Maj to step up to the plate?.....epetition?
Wouldn’t it be great if she, on her own initiative and sensing what MP’s cannot seem to sense from the vast majority, ordered a public announcement on TV and radio, and stated that she would like to dissolve Parliament and call a general election, as there is now no faith or trust in the current system and the people how milk it.

I wonder how the MP’s would spin that one!

JagLover

43,555 posts

241 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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I suppose we are moving into unchartered waters here.

The monarchy may have little actual power left. But if she takes her responsibilities as head of state seriously she may well have to act.

The country is in serious difficulties and we are ruled over by a totally discredited government.

Added to which many MPs should face the judgement of voters over their claims (as individuals not as parties) not in a year's time.

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Barring something additional happening I cant see the Queen taking drastic action when there is only a year to go (max) for a general election. I would guess that she will be talking privately to Winky and informing him that the earlier the better.
If this had been mid-term I suspect she would act, but that action may well be something like a message to the PM; call an election or I will.

Mr POD

5,153 posts

198 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Brink said:
Frankly, I'd like to dissolve Gordon Brown is an acid bath. It's not like doesn't deserve such a comeuppance.

But who would replace him?
I have a collection of puppets left over from spitting image. All they need is the right script

Invisible man

39,731 posts

290 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Unchartered waters is an apt description.

Our economy is in tatters, we are in more debt than the rest of Europe according to the IMF, our unemployment is about to hit record levels, we are spending more on the Public Sector than the Private can cope with, our power program has been mismanaged such that blackouts will become common and we will be at the mercy of Russia etc and to cap it all, not just one Party but the whole of Parliament has lost the trust of the people.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

211 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Invisible man said:
Unchartered waters is an apt description.

Our economy is in tatters, we are in more debt than the rest of Europe according to the IMF, our unemployment is about to hit record levels, we are spending more on the Public Sector than the Private can cope with, our power program has been mismanaged such that blackouts will become common and we will be at the mercy of Russia etc and to cap it all, not just one Party but the whole of Parliament has lost the trust of the people.
I would love it if Winky was summoned to the Palace, absolutely LOVE it. Can you imagine the scandal?? It would go down in history!

Invisible man

39,731 posts

290 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Now that I could live with.

Her Maj summons Winky for a chat, standing with no biccies. "Winky, you've fked up, one can't have ones Country run by a bunch of inept con artists, sort it out or the next sunrise you'll see will be in Kandahar as the British Ambassador"




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1183468/Th...

How low can these feckers sink?

Edited by Invisible man on Sunday 17th May 10:10

cazzer

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8,883 posts

254 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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Invisible man said:
Now that I could live with.

Her Maj summons Winky for a chat, standing with no biccies. "Winky, you've fked up, one can't have ones Country run by a bunch of inept con artists, sort it out or the next sunrise you'll see will be in Kandahar as the British Ambassador"
I wouldn't trust him to do that.
But I would make it a pre-requisite he has to stand very still on the balcony at the same time every day for at least an hour smile

elster

17,517 posts

216 months

Friday 15th May 2009
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

2 posts in 1 week.

Anyway, as I said there, not until something major happens. As in a military coup or police state.