"I haven't met a Labour voter in days" Dan Hannan

[Martial Arts Man]

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/daniel_hannan/blog/20...

The newswires seem rife, in wake of the Sun's Euro election poll showing Labour support equal on 19% with UKIP, with speculation that Labour could be pushed into fourth place in June.

I posted the above article by PH golden-politician Hannan; he describes not having met a Labour voter in 9 days of campaigning.

I had no idea that things were quite so catastrophic out amongst the people.


There's no way Brown could survive 4th place. I put my stake in the ground. It's what I'm going with.


The endgame is upon us if these polls turn out to be accurate.

[RobDickinson]

Brown wont survive 2nd place. No leader in power ever could.

And a % in votes (polled0 doesn't necessarily turn into a % of seats in the lower house either. Most parties in power tend to spend half their time redefining areas to give them better chances of staying in power..

[Sheets Tabuer]

Martial Arts Man said:

I had no idea that things were quite so catastrophic out amongst the people.

It's not, the media are not reporting a lot of things and as when blair got in, the media are giving others 24 hour coverage and making out they are jesus.

[Martial Arts Man]

Sheets Tabuer said:

Martial Arts Man said:

I had no idea that things were quite so catastrophic out amongst the people.

It's not, the media are not reporting a lot of things and as when blair got in, the media are giving others 24 hour coverage and making out they are jesus.

You think they have made up the poll in the Sun?

Or that tonight's QT hecklers were plants?

I used to think similar thoughts to yourself with regard to media hype. The last 24 hours has made me reappraise that position.

[Jasandjules]

Let's face it, people are losing their homes and paying taxes through the nose, to then learn that these self serving scum are stealing thousands of pounds from those very taxes.

[Puggit]

Hannan is MEP for the SE if memories serves correctly. It's being widely reported that Labour are facing total wipe out in the southern counties, so his comments aren't that surprising.

It will be a different story for London and other inner-city areas.

[loafer123]

Puggit said:

Hannan is MEP for the SE if memories serves correctly. It's being widely reported that Labour are facing total wipe out in the southern counties, so his comments aren't that surprising.

It will be a different story for London and other inner-city areas.

Why? The world the poor face is the same one the rich face, and both have been appallingly mismanaged by Labour.

[cs02rm0]

Just wait for them to introduce electronic voting...

[10 Pence Short]

The Sun being against Labour tells you all you need to know. There is no way on Earth Labour are going to win the next General Election.

If The Mirror turns on Brown before then it'll be his time up, too.

[Gunny Sergeant D]

10 Pence Short said:

If The Mirror turns on Brown before then it'll be his time up, too.

That will never happen. The Sun has switched sides a few times. The Mirror might as well be owned by Lab. Kevin Maguire is the political editor and implicated in Smeargate. He attended the RedRag web site meetings.

[Gunny Sergeant D]

Sheets Tabuer said:

Martial Arts Man said:

I had no idea that things were quite so catastrophic out amongst the people.

It's not, the media are not reporting a lot of things and as when blair got in, the media are giving others 24 hour coverage and making out they are jesus.

Please can we have a list of what they are not reporting?

[otolith]

Gunny Sergeant D said:

10 Pence Short said:

If The Mirror turns on Brown before then it'll be his time up, too.

That will never happen. The Sun has switched sides a few times. The Mirror might as well be owned by Lab. Kevin Maguire is the political editor and implicated in Smeargate. He attended the RedRag web site meetings.

The Mirror has always been a Labour supporting paper, yes. There's a difference between turning on Labour, though, and turning on Brown. Nobody does fratricide like the Left.

[Sheets Tabuer]

Martial Arts Man said:

Sheets Tabuer said:

Martial Arts Man said:

I had no idea that things were quite so catastrophic out amongst the people.

It's not, the media are not reporting a lot of things and as when blair got in, the media are giving others 24 hour coverage and making out they are jesus.

You think they have made up the poll in the Sun?

Or that tonight's QT hecklers were plants?

I used to think similar thoughts to yourself with regard to media hype. The last 24 hours has made me reappraise that position.

I agree this morally corrupt lot have to go but what I see in my cynical old age is what happened when Blair walked down downing street to a chorus of angels singing and backlit with a very strong light.

What I am saying is a lot of comments are being made by MPs like the Tebbit don't vote tory scandal which are simply not being reported.

It's the messiah news reporting all over again "drop everything else cameron is jesus" line is so obvious its painful. The media just wants to be able to say to each other we changed the government.

Now this being pistonheads I know you are not allowed to say anything other than I love the tories but please bear in mind this is a dig at the media not your beloved.

By the way I have never voted labour and on one or two occasions I have voted tory.

[tank slapper]

Sheets Tabuer said:

I agree this morally corrupt lot have to go but what I see in my cynical old age is what happened when Blair walked down downing street to a chorus of angels singing and backlit with a very strong light.

What I am saying is a lot of comments are being made by MPs like the Tebbit don't vote tory scandal which are simply not being reported.

It's the messiah news reporting all over again "drop everything else cameron is jesus" line is so obvious its painful. The media just wants to be able to say to each other we changed the government.

Now this being pistonheads I know you are not allowed to say anything other than I love the tories but please bear in mind this is a dig at the media not your beloved.

By the way I have never voted labour and on one or two occasions I have voted tory.

I don't think it is the same. I think it is pretty unlikely we will see the almost undisguised glee on the faces of BBC reporters if the Conservatives win the next election that there was when Blair or even Obama won. There are obviously some sections of the press that want to see Cameron as PM, but for the most part it looks more like reporting on what they expect to happen than what they particularly want. Open criticsm of Brown has increased hugely in the last month or so, but until then it was nowhere near what was directed at John Major and his government over a period of several years. I really doubt that David Cameron will get anything like the easy ride that Blair did over his first few terms, despite the obvious failings.

[Sheets Tabuer]

The BBC have become a joke, I try to avoid their channels as much as possible.

I do wish there was a way of bringing some balance back to news reporting as the way I see it they are influencing elections and the stupid suck it all up.

I know there has never really been balance but it's getting silly now.

[unrepentant]

Guam said:

Qt was a revelation to watch, I have never seen anything like that in the decades that that program has been on the air. Given the generally controlled nature of audiences in TV programs they should consider themselves lucky that this wasnt done down the local, there would have been lynchings I reckon

I enjoyed QT last night and it was nice to see the MP's getting a good shoeing. However I am slightly cynical about the BBC and the impartiality of the audiences they put up. Following the evasion of Iraq there was a particularly unpleasant episode of the programme when the audience seemed to have a very anti war lefty bias. A woman in mid eastern dress harangued the US ambassador to London and asked him if he understood why America was the most hated country in the world. This to raucous cheers. I felt sorry for the Ambassador who was a very capable and pleasant man and he was clearly upset. There was no doubt in my mind that the programme had been hijacked, probably with the connivance of the left leaning BBC and I wrote and complained to the BBC the next day as did others.