56% of those arrested for suspicion of terrorism not charged
Discussion
This is bad legislation and the powers are blatantly abused. Mainly against muslims.
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8047477.stm
Statistics show 56% of 1,471 suspects arrested under the Terrorism Act between 11 September 2001 and 31 March 2008 did not face charges.
Of those, just 102 were convicted of terror offences and a further 94 were convicted of non-terrorism offences.
There are currently 125 terrorist prisoners in England and Wales.
Of these, 91% class themselves as Muslim.
Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8047477.stm
Statistics show 56% of 1,471 suspects arrested under the Terrorism Act between 11 September 2001 and 31 March 2008 did not face charges.
Of those, just 102 were convicted of terror offences and a further 94 were convicted of non-terrorism offences.
There are currently 125 terrorist prisoners in England and Wales.
Of these, 91% class themselves as Muslim.
The charge rate for normal criminal offences overall is about 80%.
With terrorism being a far harder offence to prove with far more evidential requirements etc I'd have thought that every other person being arrested for it is charged is not bad. I think with regards burglary the figures are about the same.
As regards the religious origin, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than the current threat being from a very small minority of persons of that religion. As such I would expect it to be reflected in the arrests. Had 90% been budhists then it would be more concerning.
With terrorism being a far harder offence to prove with far more evidential requirements etc I'd have thought that every other person being arrested for it is charged is not bad. I think with regards burglary the figures are about the same.
As regards the religious origin, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything other than the current threat being from a very small minority of persons of that religion. As such I would expect it to be reflected in the arrests. Had 90% been budhists then it would be more concerning.
Eric Mc said:
And the successful conviction rate?
102 from 1,471About 7%, the police must be proud.
Have you seen how traumatic it is when this legislation is used (abused) against people? Their homes and their whole lives are turned upside down and they are detained for long periods of time with no recourse to justice.
This whole thing stinks.
Tony*T3 said:
All jokes about the DoR aside, this is scandalous.
Usually when the government want our attention somewhere else over the last three years the police launch 'terror raids'.
Much of the evidence held to launch a raid is inadmissable in court. If no further evidence is found then there is not sufficient evidence to take them to court. That doesn't mean that they are not dangerous fanatics and, if foreign nationals, should be deported.Usually when the government want our attention somewhere else over the last three years the police launch 'terror raids'.
JagLover said:
Tony*T3 said:
All jokes about the DoR aside, this is scandalous.
Usually when the government want our attention somewhere else over the last three years the police launch 'terror raids'.
Much of the evidence held to launch a raid is inadmissable in court. If no further evidence is found then there is not sufficient evidence to take them to court. That doesn't mean that they are not dangerous fanatics and, if foreign nationals, should be deported.Usually when the government want our attention somewhere else over the last three years the police launch 'terror raids'.
JagLover said:
Tony*T3 said:
All jokes about the DoR aside, this is scandalous.
Usually when the government want our attention somewhere else over the last three years the police launch 'terror raids'.
Much of the evidence held to launch a raid is inadmissable in court. If no further evidence is found then there is not sufficient evidence to take them to court. That doesn't mean that they are not dangerous fanatics and, if foreign nationals, should be deported.Usually when the government want our attention somewhere else over the last three years the police launch 'terror raids'.
If they are in the country illegally, then that is a different matter and they should be charged with that offence instead.
Eric Mc said:
If they are in the country illegally, then that is a different matter and they should be charged with that offence instead.
If someone is here on a student/tourist visa then they are here on sufferance. If they become mixed up in extremist activity then they should be booted out. If these figures are correct (and noone seems ot be disputing them) that is shocking and must be a real drain on police resources too. Surely no one can be hapy at such a poor strike rate, bearing in mind the limited resources available.
Is one problem possibly the poor or compromised information from other security services?
(waits for front door to be kicked in for suggesting "5" may screw up occasionaly!!)
Is one problem possibly the poor or compromised information from other security services?
(waits for front door to be kicked in for suggesting "5" may screw up occasionaly!!)
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