What is my "political stance"?

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czzzzpzzzz

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1,067 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Strange question time smile

I have always wondered whether I would be classed as a right-wing, left-wing, centre, slightly left, right, upside down etc. Unfortunately back in 2005 I voted for Labour but it was my first vote and only really did it because I wanted to vote. Since then I have voted conservative in a few local elections but I do I really understand what I am voting for? Probably not.

I believe at the current time The Conservatives are more centre-right than the right-wing of the past. So are Labour centre-left?

Could someone tell me based on a breif list of my political beliefs where I lie on the polictical scale?

- Bring back National Service.
- Bring back capital punishment.
- Reform the education giving more power to head teachers/principles to decide curriculum. Make it more relevant!
- Invest heavily in promoting apprenticeships to young people to enable us to achieve a higher skilled workforce for the future.
- Give the freedom back to the Police and allow them to do their job rather than paperwork.
- Get rid of PCSO's and pay for more "proper" police.
- Get rid of Speed Cameras and reform the driving test so that you begin to learn at school and take the test at 18 rather than taking 3-5 months when you reach 17.
- Abolish inheritance tax.
- Invest heavily in "green" technology. Hydro/Nuclear etc, rely less on imports of oil etc.
- Rely less on imports and begin to manufacture more of our own.
- Get rid of localised care trusts.
- force workers to pay into a pension fund.
- cap immigration and create border police force to police our borders and clamp down on illegal immigrants.
- larger gov grants for those who wish to become doctors, lawyers etc.
- anti-EU, take back our power rather than leaving it to those in brussels, enjoy a good relationship/trade but without giving away ANY of our powers.
- Make it compulsory for young people to learn an additional language starting from early schooling.

Edited by czzzzpzzzz on Saturday 9th May 19:44

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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None perfect, but that would be Tories, UKIP or, strangely enough, the BNP (some baggage comes with that last one though).
Tories weak on EU though.

Edited by s2art on Saturday 9th May 19:40

V8mate

45,899 posts

195 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Looks like a Nationalist Socialist manifesto!

Shaw Tarse

31,624 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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I think you need to vote for the PH party!

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

223 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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As per others, conservative, UKIP or BNP (if they'd drop the non inclusive & retarded parts of their manifesto)

czzzzpzzzz

Original Poster:

1,067 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Do I sound like a Nazi? - I do believe in freedom of speech too, along with homoesexual marriage and and freedom of choice for religion rather than having christianity shoved down your throat at school (imo) I am also pro-abortion and believe that circumstance may not always be right especially in the circumstance of rape or broken down relationships.

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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czzzzpzzzz said:
Do I sound like a Nazi? - I do believe in freedom of speech too, along with homoesexual marriage and and freedom of choice for religion rather than having christianity shoved down your throat at school (imo) I am also pro-abortion and believe that circumstance may not always be right especially in the circumstance of rape or broken down relationships.
More like a Tory voter from a bygone era than a Nazi, excluding the bits about abortion and homosexuals that is. If there was a sensible nationalist party you would be prime material for it. Not that UKIP isnt reasonably sensible, just that they are not very big.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

232 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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czzzzpzzzz said:
Could someone tell me based on a brief list of my political beliefs where I lie on the political scale?

- Bring back National Service.
- Bring back capital punishment.
- Reform the education giving more power to head teachers/principles to decide curriculum. Make it more relevant!
- Invest heavily in promoting apprenticeships to young people to enable us to achieve a higher skilled workforce for the future.
- Give the freedom back to the Police and allow them to do their job rather than paperwork.
- Get rid of PCSOs and pay for more "proper" police.
- Get rid of Speed Cameras and reform the driving test so that you begin to learn at school and take the test at 18 rather than taking 3-5 months when you reach 17.
- Abolish inheritance tax.
- Invest heavily in "green" technology. Hydro/Nuclear etc., rely less on imports of oil etc.
- Rely less on imports and begin to manufacture more of our own.
- Get rid of localised care trusts.
- force workers to pay into a pension fund.
- cap immigration and create border police force to police our borders and clamp down on illegal immigrants.
- larger gov grants for those who wish to become doctors, lawyers etc.
- anti-EU, take back our power rather than leaving it to those in Brussels, enjoy a good relationship/trade but without giving away ANY of our powers.
- Make it compulsory for young people to learn an additional language starting from early schooling.
Given that much of that will not happen (capital punishment, national service, abolition of taxes, immigration cap, grants for professionals) under a government of any political stripe in the UK, I'd say you fall into the "fantasist" category. No offence intended, but that list is pretty much the moon on a stick.

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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CommanderJameson said:
czzzzpzzzz said:
Could someone tell me based on a brief list of my political beliefs where I lie on the political scale?

- Bring back National Service.
- Bring back capital punishment.
- Reform the education giving more power to head teachers/principles to decide curriculum. Make it more relevant!
- Invest heavily in promoting apprenticeships to young people to enable us to achieve a higher skilled workforce for the future.
- Give the freedom back to the Police and allow them to do their job rather than paperwork.
- Get rid of PCSOs and pay for more "proper" police.
- Get rid of Speed Cameras and reform the driving test so that you begin to learn at school and take the test at 18 rather than taking 3-5 months when you reach 17.
- Abolish inheritance tax.
- Invest heavily in "green" technology. Hydro/Nuclear etc., rely less on imports of oil etc.
- Rely less on imports and begin to manufacture more of our own.
- Get rid of localised care trusts.
- force workers to pay into a pension fund.
- cap immigration and create border police force to police our borders and clamp down on illegal immigrants.
- larger gov grants for those who wish to become doctors, lawyers etc.
- anti-EU, take back our power rather than leaving it to those in Brussels, enjoy a good relationship/trade but without giving away ANY of our powers.
- Make it compulsory for young people to learn an additional language starting from early schooling.
Given that much of that will not happen (capital punishment, national service, abolition of taxes, immigration cap, grants for professionals) under a government of any political stripe in the UK, I'd say you fall into the "fantasist" category. No offence intended, but that list is pretty much the moon on a stick.
Well, the Tories are keen on an immigration cap, and abolition of inheritance tax. And I can see a future government being forced to abandon the current position on University placement, replacing it with scholarships/grants for key subjects. Again Tories or UKIP for the latter. Nulab will just be forced into cutting money to the universities, its no longer affordable.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

232 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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s2art said:
CommanderJameson said:
czzzzpzzzz said:
Could someone tell me based on a brief list of my political beliefs where I lie on the political scale?

- Bring back National Service.
- Bring back capital punishment.
- Reform the education giving more power to head teachers/principles to decide curriculum. Make it more relevant!
- Invest heavily in promoting apprenticeships to young people to enable us to achieve a higher skilled workforce for the future.
- Give the freedom back to the Police and allow them to do their job rather than paperwork.
- Get rid of PCSOs and pay for more "proper" police.
- Get rid of Speed Cameras and reform the driving test so that you begin to learn at school and take the test at 18 rather than taking 3-5 months when you reach 17.
- Abolish inheritance tax.
- Invest heavily in "green" technology. Hydro/Nuclear etc., rely less on imports of oil etc.
- Rely less on imports and begin to manufacture more of our own.
- Get rid of localised care trusts.
- force workers to pay into a pension fund.
- cap immigration and create border police force to police our borders and clamp down on illegal immigrants.
- larger gov grants for those who wish to become doctors, lawyers etc.
- anti-EU, take back our power rather than leaving it to those in Brussels, enjoy a good relationship/trade but without giving away ANY of our powers.
- Make it compulsory for young people to learn an additional language starting from early schooling.
Given that much of that will not happen (capital punishment, national service, abolition of taxes, immigration cap, grants for professionals) under a government of any political stripe in the UK, I'd say you fall into the "fantasist" category. No offence intended, but that list is pretty much the moon on a stick.
Well, the Tories are keen on an immigration cap, and abolition of inheritance tax. And I can see a future government being forced to abandon the current position on University placement, replacing it with scholarships/grants for key subjects. Again Tories or UKIP for the latter. Nulab will just be forced into cutting money to the universities, its no longer affordable.
Immigration cap? Perhaps. Abolition of inheritance tax? Not in my lifetime; that pledge will be quietly forgotten. The state needs the money. Perhaps the threshold will be raised significantly, but I'm not holding my breath. The university system is a giant mess. I don't know what's going to happen with it.

UKIP are an semi-interesting irrelevance; they, like the BNP, are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Anyway, I did say "much of the list", not "all of it".

Puggit

48,764 posts

254 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Tories do seem to be offering a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty...

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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CommanderJameson said:
s2art said:
CommanderJameson said:
czzzzpzzzz said:
Could someone tell me based on a brief list of my political beliefs where I lie on the political scale?

- Bring back National Service.
- Bring back capital punishment.
- Reform the education giving more power to head teachers/principles to decide curriculum. Make it more relevant!
- Invest heavily in promoting apprenticeships to young people to enable us to achieve a higher skilled workforce for the future.
- Give the freedom back to the Police and allow them to do their job rather than paperwork.
- Get rid of PCSOs and pay for more "proper" police.
- Get rid of Speed Cameras and reform the driving test so that you begin to learn at school and take the test at 18 rather than taking 3-5 months when you reach 17.
- Abolish inheritance tax.
- Invest heavily in "green" technology. Hydro/Nuclear etc., rely less on imports of oil etc.
- Rely less on imports and begin to manufacture more of our own.
- Get rid of localised care trusts.
- force workers to pay into a pension fund.
- cap immigration and create border police force to police our borders and clamp down on illegal immigrants.
- larger gov grants for those who wish to become doctors, lawyers etc.
- anti-EU, take back our power rather than leaving it to those in Brussels, enjoy a good relationship/trade but without giving away ANY of our powers.
- Make it compulsory for young people to learn an additional language starting from early schooling.
Given that much of that will not happen (capital punishment, national service, abolition of taxes, immigration cap, grants for professionals) under a government of any political stripe in the UK, I'd say you fall into the "fantasist" category. No offence intended, but that list is pretty much the moon on a stick.
Well, the Tories are keen on an immigration cap, and abolition of inheritance tax. And I can see a future government being forced to abandon the current position on University placement, replacing it with scholarships/grants for key subjects. Again Tories or UKIP for the latter. Nulab will just be forced into cutting money to the universities, its no longer affordable.
Immigration cap? Perhaps. Abolition of inheritance tax? Not in my lifetime; that pledge will be quietly forgotten. The state needs the money. Perhaps the threshold will be raised significantly, but I'm not holding my breath. The university system is a giant mess. I don't know what's going to happen with it.

UKIP are an semi-interesting irrelevance; they, like the BNP, are full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Anyway, I did say "much of the list", not "all of it".
Well, Nulab will be crapping themselves about the BNP and UKIP in the forthcoming Euro elections. So not completely irrelevant.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

217 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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I don't need to wonder what I am. Facist bd apparently.

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
I don't need to wonder what I am. Facist bd apparently.
I suggest you demand a better uniform then.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

217 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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s2art said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
I don't need to wonder what I am. Facist bd apparently.
I suggest you demand a better uniform then.
Never been a big one for riding boots.

s2art

18,942 posts

259 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
s2art said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
I don't need to wonder what I am. Facist bd apparently.
I suggest you demand a better uniform then.
Never been a big one for riding boots.
Seemed to work well for all those Parisian girls when the Germans marched in. (probably a large number of Parisian men too though)

Somewhatfoolish

4,572 posts

192 months

Saturday 9th May 2009
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s2art said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
s2art said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
I don't need to wonder what I am. Facist bd apparently.
I suggest you demand a better uniform then.
Never been a big one for riding boots.
Seemed to work well for all those Parisian girls when the Germans marched in. (probably a large number of Parisian men too though)
But consider the alternative wink

fuctifino

150 posts

196 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
I don't need to wonder what I am. Facist bd apparently.
You got that right.

MrTom

868 posts

209 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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The English democrats have a few policys you agree with. I heard about them as a guy living local is running for mayor representing them.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

217 months

Sunday 10th May 2009
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fuctifino said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
I don't need to wonder what I am. Facist bd apparently.
You got that right.
If you ever wondered what you were I'd be happy to tell you.

You cheeky little chappy you.