Telegraph to publish MP's exes early

[ianash]

So the terrible truth is now hitting the papers. Sit back as your piss boils at the endemic corruption displayed by our representatives.

[FourWheelDrift]

They are committing fraud and stealing (privately this time as opposed to their more public stealing of the past 12 months) from the tax payer.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8039108.stm

[AndrewW-G]

delusional blears spokes gimp said:

Hazel is honest as the day is long

its not often that the political news section of the ministry of informations BBC makes me laugh......but this did

Edited by AndrewW-G on Friday 8th May 00:23

[Sheets Tabuer]

Wide thread is wide.

[heebeegeetee]

Everything they've done is within the rules, which given that they wrote the rules is hardly surprising.

[Martial Arts Man]

Of more interest than anything else will be the details regarding this payment to Winky's brother for cleaning services.

Another slash in his death by a thousand cuts (wierdly enough, if my maths isn't skewed, Winky will serve approx 1000 days in office.....spooky huh ).

Personally, I am more concerned about the obvious revelations to follow regarding the Tories.

[AndrewW-G]

Martial Arts Man said:

I am more concerned about the obvious revelations to follow regarding the Tories.

If CMD wants to really stick the boot in, he should insist that the worst offenders in the shadow cabinet resign or at least retreat to the back benches............. as we've all seen in the past 12 years, labour scum never ever appologise or fall on their swords when caught doing something wrong

[heebeegeetee]

AndrewW-G said:

Martial Arts Man said:

I am more concerned about the obvious revelations to follow regarding the Tories.

If CMD wants to really stick the boot in, he should insist that the worst offenders in the shadow cabinet resign or at least retreat to the back benches............. as we've all seen in the past 12 years, labour scum never ever appologise or fall on their swords when caught doing something wrong

I don't seem to recall any of the lot who were in power for the 18 years before being much big on owning up, except maybe for those who went to prison.

[Martial Arts Man]

AndrewW-G said:

Martial Arts Man said:

I am more concerned about the obvious revelations to follow regarding the Tories.

If CMD wants to really stick the boot in, he should insist that the worst offenders in the shadow cabinet resign or at least retreat to the back benches............. as we've all seen in the past 12 years, labour scum never ever appologise or fall on their swords when caught doing something wrong

Unless he is caught up in it himself.

Which would be a disaster.

It will be interesting to see who amongst the Tories is affected. If Osborne is badly mired, for instance, many will see it as the golden opportunity to swap him for another with more gravitas.

[Ozone]

heebeegeetee said:

I don't seem to recall any of the lot who were in power for the 18 years before being much big on owning up, except maybe for those who went to prison.

They didn't claim to be whiter than white either.

[AndrewW-G]

heebeegeetee said:

AndrewW-G said:

Martial Arts Man said:

I am more concerned about the obvious revelations to follow regarding the Tories.

If CMD wants to really stick the boot in, he should insist that the worst offenders in the shadow cabinet resign or at least retreat to the back benches............. as we've all seen in the past 12 years, labour scum never ever appologise or fall on their swords when caught doing something wrong

I don't seem to recall any of the lot who were in power for the 18 years before being much big on owning up, except maybe for those who went to prison.

For me at least its not a case of MP's owning up, its more a case of if it comes to light that somebody has made a serious lapse in judgment then they shouldn’t be allowed back into office and would step down at the next election.
That mandelson is back in the cabinet having committed acts of mortgage fraud so serious that had you or I committed them we would have been arrested, is a good indication of the lack of moral fibre running through the labour party. That winky had to invoke a little known law to allow an unelected peer into his cabinet shows exactly how desperate and morally bankrupt his government are.
In 1997 it was time for a change in government, that is the case now. Winky is not capable of leading his local scout troop let alone a country as complex as the UK

[tank slapper]

This is going to be an entertaining few days. I'm glad the press have got hold of the uncensored details. It stinks that parliament tried to hide them for the sake of convenience.

John Major has some good comments on Labour.

[tinman0]

AndrewW-G said:

Martial Arts Man said:

I am more concerned about the obvious revelations to follow regarding the Tories.

If CMD wants to really stick the boot in, he should insist that the worst offenders in the shadow cabinet resign or at least retreat to the back benches............. as we've all seen in the past 12 years, labour scum never ever appologise or fall on their swords when caught doing something wrong

Can't see there being anything too bad considering most of the shadow cabinet are millionaires in the first place.

Seems to be the more common man/woman MP that has an issue with expenses.

[RobDickinson]

Ozone said:

heebeegeetee said:

I don't seem to recall any of the lot who were in power for the 18 years before being much big on owning up, except maybe for those who went to prison.

They didn't claim to be whiter than white either.

Uh they did. Remember John Major pushing family values whilst his cabinet was busy doing many unsavoury things, and himself shagging Edwina behind his wifes back...

[Duke of Rothesay]

Top 70 Labour sleaze scandals.
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2006/04/top-50-or-so-...

They have systematically abused the political system to line their own pockets, have raised money illegally and have misused public money for political purposes.
By far the worst government this country has ever had.

[Einion Yrth]

RobDickinson said:

Remember John Major pushing family values whilst his cabinet was busy doing many unsavoury things, and himself shagging Edwina behind his wifes back...

Bit of a difference between a bit of ill-advised wick-dipping and wholesale theft from the public purse, dontcha think?

[groucho]

Einion Yrth said:

RobDickinson said:

Remember John Major pushing family values whilst his cabinet was busy doing many unsavoury things, and himself shagging Edwina behind his wifes back...

Bit of a difference between a bit of ill-advised wick-dipping and wholesale theft from the public purse, dontcha think?

Absolutely! I couldn't give a toss if they were gang banging bubbles.

[groucho]

Martial Arts Man said:

Of more interest than anything else will be the details regarding this payment to Winky's brother for cleaning services.

...and look at his job..."Among the expenses detailed by the Telegraph were Gordon Brown's payment of £6,577 for cleaning work between 2004 and 2006 to his brother Andrew - a senior executive at EDF"

Did his brother do this cleaning? People will not put up with this.

[All Jagged Up]

The BBC claims Prescott claimed for two toilet seats within 12 months.

Well - I suppose legit as he must have used the "throne" for his critical thinking cogitating.

[Don]

Personally I think this MPs expenses is a red herring...and will be embarassing for all sides as you all rightly point out above.

When council leaders are paid more than the PM something is wrong. The whole system has been screwed about with to give them money that wasn't headline salary - because they have believed for some time that if their salary looks too large to Joe Public that would be bad.

They have just found out that the fiddly nonsense they did instead looks worse.

Pay them properly. If that's £150K so be it.
Parliament Limited should have them, and their staff, as employees. They should be paid PAYE and be paid legitimate expenses according to the same HMRC rules as the rest of us.
It will actually cost MORE is my prediction. But at least it will be equitable with the working population.

They should recieve statutory redundancy pay if they are voted out - no more.