What is "A fairer Britain"?

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paddyhasneeds

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54,489 posts

216 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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Every time I see Brown or Harman on TV being interviewed they make reference to how they're working towards "A fairer Britain".

What does this actually mean? In what ways is Britain currently unfair?

chris watton

22,478 posts

266 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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it is a hollow meaningless intentionally ambiguous sound bite, nothing more.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

289 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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It means they want to take what you have to give it to someone else who deserves it more. To them equality has a strange definition, where minorities and those who scrounge are more entitled than anyone else.

Harperson has stated that she wants to introduce legislation to make it legal to actively discriminate in favour of race, sexuality or whatever other criteria fit her idea of utopia. Basically if you are a white middle class man, you might as well not bother.

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

223 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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What 'fairer Britain' should mean is that you are not discriminated against based on where you were born or where you went to school or how much you are prepared to help yourself. That The System rewards people in such a way that the more you put in, the more you get back (not just monetarily). That people who want to better themselves are giving incentive to do so.

I somehow think that is not necessarily going to meet with Gordon Brown's envy politics of removing wealth from the top to give it to those who intend to stay right at the bottom.

Edited by 10 Pence Short on Tuesday 5th May 19:19

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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chris watton said:
it is a hollow meaningless intentionally ambiguous sound bite, nothing more.
Spot on, just ignore them, they'll be jobless next year.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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It's a Britain where the entire labour government commit suicide!

Dogwatch

6,263 posts

228 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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It's a Britain where rich and poor can enjoy their leisure time together




While the toiling classes in the middle support both of them grumpy

Skodaku

1,805 posts

225 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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Dogwatch said:
It's a Britain where rich and poor can enjoy their leisure time together




While the toiling classes in the middle support both of them grumpy
Harsh................but true, unfortunately.

All Jagged Up

148 posts

185 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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YES Agree on this.


But a politician? Claims "end justifies the means" but whose "end"? I just see target. hoops and spin.. but they spin a weak yarn which goes into holes when you knit with it.


Ah.. now have I just managed the "critical thinking thing" or the bcensoredt?

Merc fan

963 posts

189 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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It is as meaningless a phrase as when they tell us their next useless, knee-jerk, after-the-horse-has-bolted policy is "the right thing to do". This has been a hackneyed phrase under New Labour. Watch out for it. Intensely arrogant for someone to tell us their view is objectively the right thing to do.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

251 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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paddyhasneeds said:
"A fairer Britain".

What does this actually mean?
It's where everyone is equal. Except for anyone involved in politics.

Teppic

7,483 posts

263 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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paddyhasneeds said:
"A fairer Britain".

What does this actually mean?
A Britain where all the tanning salons have been closed down?

Saddle bum

4,211 posts

225 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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"Britain" is the bit the Labour Govt rules over. It just so happens to coincide with "England" for the rest of it is devolved to assemblies or parliaments.

Britain is the enemy of England, for England is the last colony of the British Empire.

asbo

26,140 posts

220 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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In short, he's been reading Stalin's Memoirs again.

Be afraid yes

glazbagun

14,430 posts

203 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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A britain thats more fair. Because everyone agrees that their lot is unfair. Be it because they get taxed too much, or because they dont get enough benefit for being a teenage single mum of eight.

cymtriks

4,561 posts

251 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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Fairness is an impossible goal as there is no universally agreed definition of fairness.

Typically the Socialist and Capitalist parties have had opposing views on fairness and regard the other parties views as inherently unfair.

It goes like this:

  • Socialists believe that resources should be shared out regardless of any contribution but in proportion to need.
  • Capitalists believe that resources should be shared out in proportion to any contribution and regardless of need.
Both these views are justified on the basis of fairness.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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cymtriks said:
Both these views are justified on the basis of fairness.
But only one makes people get off their arses and work...

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

210 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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I can't tell you what a fairer Britain is but i know what they see as an unfair Britain

They see it as unfair that those of us that work have more money than those that don't so they want us to have less money and chavs to have more.

Sadly this ends up with those that are trying to lift themselves out of sink estates and long term unemployment get quickly and sharply kicked straight back down again.

JMGS4

8,755 posts

276 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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Harriet Whormone wants a Socialist Republic of Little Britain where she is above any laws and can fill her belly from the trough anyway possible, while shouting socialist propaganda which sink estate pikeys and other fat lazy chavs enjoy as it reinforces their "rights" of dole and lazyness. The rest of the white hard-working tax-paying christian Brits can slave without rights for the fat cats and their moron sink-estate chavs....

Jasandjules

70,415 posts

235 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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A Fairer Britain is where we all can only claim expenses for one house, where no-one can smoke in a building of any kind, and where if we do fiddle our expense claims, we are prosecuted and imprisoned.

I expect we'll see that put in place shortly..