More bonkers alcohol policy from Tesco
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Paramedic strips off to thong after Tesco refuse to serve him while wearing his uniform.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1176864/Pa...
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artical said:
A spokesman for Tesco confirmed that it was company policy not to serve members of the emergency services if they were wearing uniform and stood by the cashier's actions.
but they dont go on to say why... are we to assume that persons in professions that require uniform should not drink, or that in some way they are role models?anyone on here work for the ambulance service, are there any rules regarding what you can and cant do off duty when still in uniform? ie are you allowed to stop for shopping on your way home?
Rach* said:
I've bought wine in my RAF uniform...I've been out for 7 months now so policy could have changed.
I did hear recently that they were going to stop people shopping in clinical wear for cross infection reasons. Could be a reason?
surely theres got to be a REALLY small chance of that happening without you noticing? if your splattered in blood your not going to be shopping anyway are you?I did hear recently that they were going to stop people shopping in clinical wear for cross infection reasons. Could be a reason?
Mercer89 said:
Rach* said:
I've bought wine in my RAF uniform...I've been out for 7 months now so policy could have changed.
I did hear recently that they were going to stop people shopping in clinical wear for cross infection reasons. Could be a reason?
surely theres got to be a REALLY small chance of that happening without you noticing? if your splattered in blood your not going to be shopping anyway are you?I did hear recently that they were going to stop people shopping in clinical wear for cross infection reasons. Could be a reason?
I don't think it has annything to do with alcohol. They said it was company policy not to serve members of the emergency services if they were wearing uniform.
My ex was a healthcare assistant and woked in a hospital. The local Sainsburys refused to serve hospital staff in uniform, regardless what they were buying.
My ex was a healthcare assistant and woked in a hospital. The local Sainsburys refused to serve hospital staff in uniform, regardless what they were buying.
Mercer89 said:
Rach* said:
I've bought wine in my RAF uniform...I've been out for 7 months now so policy could have changed.
I did hear recently that they were going to stop people shopping in clinical wear for cross infection reasons. Could be a reason?
surely theres got to be a REALLY small chance of that happening without you noticing? if your splattered in blood your not going to be shopping anyway are you?I did hear recently that they were going to stop people shopping in clinical wear for cross infection reasons. Could be a reason?
Uniform: an evidence review of the microbiological significance of uniforms and uniform policy in the prevention and control of healthcare-associated infections. Report to the Department of Health (England).
Citation:
The Journal of hospital infection, August 2007, vol./is. 66/4(301-7), 0195-67
A systematic search and quality assessment of published literature was conducted to establish current knowledge on the role of healthcare workers uniforms' as vehicles for the transfer of healthcare-associated infections. This review comprised a systematic search of national and international guidance, published literature and data on recent advances in laundry technology and processes. We found only a small number of relevant studies that provided limited evidence directly related to the decontamination of uniforms. Studies concerning domestic laundry processes are small scale and largely observational. Current practice and guidance for laundering uniforms is extrapolated from studies of industrial hospital linen processing. Healthcare workers' uniforms, including white coats, become progressively contaminated in use with bacteria of low pathogenicity from the wearer and of mixed pathogenicity from the clinical environment and patients. The hypothesis that uniforms/clothing could be a vehicle for the transmission of infections is not supported by existing evidence. All components of the laundering process contribute to the removal or killing of micro-organisms on fabric. There is no robust evidence of a difference in efficacy of decontamination of uniforms/clothing between industrial and domestic laundry processes, or that the home laundering of uniforms provides inadequate decontamination
oh and men wearing thongs is plain wrongness!
Cotty said:
My ex was a healthcare assistant and woked in a hospital. The local Sainsburys refused to serve hospital staff in uniform, regardless what they were buying.
The only supermarket I ever go in is a Sainsbury's and I've definitely seen people in various health-care type uniforms shopping in there. Home visiting care workers often will fetch shopping for housebound people - it would be absurd if they were banned from supermarkets.
Turn it around (not the thong obviously -you'd split your kipper). If there was an incident with a uniformed public servant drunk on duty (not unheard of) having wandered into a supermarket/offie and purchased their booze there, somewhere down the line the retailer would face some criticism.
Tesco are just heading that off at the pass. With my clinical background, the rule was, finish your shift >>> get changed. Lots of reasons, cross infection, nutters with a grudge, not your clothes to wear outside etc. If the fella was on shift, he should be sitting in his bus or back at the station. If he was off shift, he should have changed, pure laziness. I've every respect for the paramedics, I spent a couple of weeks 3rd manning with them, but they still have to follow rules and code of conduct set out by their paymaster, and the vast majority of them don't have a problem with this.
Tesco are just heading that off at the pass. With my clinical background, the rule was, finish your shift >>> get changed. Lots of reasons, cross infection, nutters with a grudge, not your clothes to wear outside etc. If the fella was on shift, he should be sitting in his bus or back at the station. If he was off shift, he should have changed, pure laziness. I've every respect for the paramedics, I spent a couple of weeks 3rd manning with them, but they still have to follow rules and code of conduct set out by their paymaster, and the vast majority of them don't have a problem with this.
Los Palmas 7 said:
Mercer89 said:
Why do tesco not serve people in the emergency services when they're in uniform? seems like such an odd rule.
If I remember rightly from my landlording days, the same rule applies in pubs.Random Internet Answer said:
Under Section 178, Licensing Act 1964 it WAS an offence to allow a constable on duty to be in licensed premises ( unless they were there as part of their duty ) and also to supply ANY liquor or refreshment, ( this included tea or soft drinks ) whether by gift or sale to an on duty constable except with the permission of their senior officer. This has been repealed by the Licensing Act 2003 and no equivalent offence remains. There were no specific offences for other uniform services under the Licensing Act. In practise it often makes sense not to sell alcohol to people who may be drivers such as taxi drivers or public service vehicle drivers who may be expected to drive and are identified as such by a uniform. This is probably the basis of the refusal to serve the person dressed in military uniform. It is worth remembering that there is NO right to insist on being served with alcohol and there is an absolute right for any bar staff to refuse service without giving a reason if they think it best not to serve any particular customer. On a personal basis, as a person who spent many years wearing a uniform, I would not do any shopping when I was 'fully uniform dressed' as I think it would reflect badly on the uniform and service I represented, the public would not know whether I was on duty or not. If I wanted to shop on the way to or from work then don't wear full dress uniform. I do not see any need to criticise the shops policy. Hope that explains the situation.
Source(s):
LLB ( Hons ) trainer in English licensing law.
Source(s):
LLB ( Hons ) trainer in English licensing law.
captainzep said:
Turn it around (not the thong obviously -you'd split your kipper). If there was an incident with a uniformed public servant drunk on duty (not unheard of) having wandered into a supermarket/offie and purchased their booze there, somewhere down the line the retailer would face some criticism.
Tesco are just heading that off at the pass. With my clinical background, the rule was, finish your shift >>> get changed. Lots of reasons, cross infection, nutters with a grudge, not your clothes to wear outside etc. If the fella was on shift, he should be sitting in his bus or back at the station. If he was off shift, he should have changed, pure laziness. I've every respect for the paramedics, I spent a couple of weeks 3rd manning with them, but they still have to follow rules and code of conduct set out by their paymaster, and the vast majority of them don't have a problem with this.
in what way should a retailer of alcohol be held any more acountable for the actions of someone working in a health related job than a banker, mp, labourer, unemployed etc.Tesco are just heading that off at the pass. With my clinical background, the rule was, finish your shift >>> get changed. Lots of reasons, cross infection, nutters with a grudge, not your clothes to wear outside etc. If the fella was on shift, he should be sitting in his bus or back at the station. If he was off shift, he should have changed, pure laziness. I've every respect for the paramedics, I spent a couple of weeks 3rd manning with them, but they still have to follow rules and code of conduct set out by their paymaster, and the vast majority of them don't have a problem with this.
unless there is a rule or law that states that ambulance/health workers must not shop in uniform off duty then i feel that supermarkets are bang out of order.
where does it stop, i wear a shirt and trousers to work, i buy lunch from Tesco's - will one day i walk in there and they say, sorry you work in IT and crumbs may get in the keyboard so we're not serving you with sandwiches whilst in a shirt?
My girlfriend is a civvy with the local police and wears a uniform. She's always made it clear that she's meant to remove or cover up her uniform whilst outside work and buying alcohol or visiting the pub whilst wearing it is a big no-no.
A good copper friend of hers was off duty, with a civvy jacket over the top of her uniform and was shopping in Tescos recently and tried to buy a bottle of grape juice. At first glance bottle looks vaguely like a wine bottle, cashier refuses to serve her. After much pointing out that it wasn't alcohol and even if it was she was off duty and covered up the manager had to be called, who then ok'd the sale.
A good copper friend of hers was off duty, with a civvy jacket over the top of her uniform and was shopping in Tescos recently and tried to buy a bottle of grape juice. At first glance bottle looks vaguely like a wine bottle, cashier refuses to serve her. After much pointing out that it wasn't alcohol and even if it was she was off duty and covered up the manager had to be called, who then ok'd the sale.
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