Milliband orders private jet
Discussion
They seem to have a death-wish. I can only assume that, realising the game is up, they've just given up trying. FFS they seem incapable of asking themselves "How will this play"? (in the media/with the public) Hence the seemingly endless gaffes and f
k-ups.
Someone needs to put them out of their misery I reckon.
k-ups.Someone needs to put them out of their misery I reckon.
Indeed, the guy is such a weapons-grade bell-end that the Tories will need to create a new Foreign Apology Minister - an elder statesman who will have to travel the world apologising prefusely, on behalf of the British public, for all the insults, slights, and obnoxious patronising statements this wker has made to them and their countrymen.
ker has made to them and their countrymen.
As much as I hate Labour, it's a bit of a non story. He needs a jet, changes in the RAF appear to mean that jets are not always available at very short notice and the Government quite rightly cancelled a project to buy a pair of jets last year.
Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
i try normally not to take too much notice of this type of journalism, it's always written in a way to either make light of, or blow something up out of proportion.
but, given these people are travelling on my pound, why are they travelling first class?
my company will pay for flights where needed, but will generally pay for a standard ticket, i have the choice if i want to pay the extra for business class etc.
i can understand if on a last minute booking there are no regular seats left, but to stick these people in business and first class every time?
this country could save hundreds of thousands if not millions of pounds on air travel alone if they went for value rather than luxery.
but, given these people are travelling on my pound, why are they travelling first class?
my company will pay for flights where needed, but will generally pay for a standard ticket, i have the choice if i want to pay the extra for business class etc.
i can understand if on a last minute booking there are no regular seats left, but to stick these people in business and first class every time?
this country could save hundreds of thousands if not millions of pounds on air travel alone if they went for value rather than luxery.
10 Pence Short said:
As much as I hate Labour, it's a bit of a non story. He needs a jet, changes in the RAF appear to mean that jets are not always available at very short notice and the Government quite rightly cancelled a project to buy a pair of jets last year.
Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
There is no credible reason why he cannot use scheduled commercial flights. I would also suggest that it could be used to promote the UK's airlines, but who on earth would want to be associated with one of them.Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
chr15b said:
i try normally not to take too much notice of this type of journalism, it's always written in a way to either make light of, or blow something up out of proportion.
but, given these people are travelling on my pound, why are they travelling first class?
my company will pay for flights where needed, but will generally pay for a standard ticket, i have the choice if i want to pay the extra for business class etc.
i can understand if on a last minute booking there are no regular seats left, but to stick these people in business and first class every time?
this country could save hundreds of thousands if not millions of pounds on air travel alone if they went for value rather than luxery.
Here's the thing - if they were senior executives in a private or public company doing a great jb - not a problem - even if, as an MP, he was brilliant and furthering the Nation's standing in the world - there would be some value.but, given these people are travelling on my pound, why are they travelling first class?
my company will pay for flights where needed, but will generally pay for a standard ticket, i have the choice if i want to pay the extra for business class etc.
i can understand if on a last minute booking there are no regular seats left, but to stick these people in business and first class every time?
this country could save hundreds of thousands if not millions of pounds on air travel alone if they went for value rather than luxery.
However to sum it up succinctly - he's a
.AndrewW-G said:
10 Pence Short said:
As much as I hate Labour, it's a bit of a non story. He needs a jet, changes in the RAF appear to mean that jets are not always available at very short notice and the Government quite rightly cancelled a project to buy a pair of jets last year.
Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
There is no credible reason why he cannot use scheduled commercial flights. I would also suggest that it could be used to promote the UK's airlines, but who on earth would want to be associated with one of them.Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
Asterix said:
chr15b said:
i try normally not to take too much notice of this type of journalism, it's always written in a way to either make light of, or blow something up out of proportion.
but, given these people are travelling on my pound, why are they travelling first class?
my company will pay for flights where needed, but will generally pay for a standard ticket, i have the choice if i want to pay the extra for business class etc.
i can understand if on a last minute booking there are no regular seats left, but to stick these people in business and first class every time?
this country could save hundreds of thousands if not millions of pounds on air travel alone if they went for value rather than luxery.
Here's the thing - if they were senior executives in a private or public company doing a great jb - not a problem - even if, as an MP, he was brilliant and furthering the Nation's standing in the world - there would be some value.but, given these people are travelling on my pound, why are they travelling first class?
my company will pay for flights where needed, but will generally pay for a standard ticket, i have the choice if i want to pay the extra for business class etc.
i can understand if on a last minute booking there are no regular seats left, but to stick these people in business and first class every time?
this country could save hundreds of thousands if not millions of pounds on air travel alone if they went for value rather than luxery.
However to sum it up succinctly - he's a
.as a consumer i have the choice to buy their product, or more importantly the cheaper product from another company who doesnt spend money in this way.
MP's need to provide value for money, basically we're paying for their perks, and there is no need to pay extra for a higher class, all the plane is getting to the same place at the same time.
10 Pence Short said:
As much as I hate Labour, it's a bit of a non story. He needs a jet, changes in the RAF appear to mean that jets are not always available at very short notice and the Government quite rightly cancelled a project to buy a pair of jets last year.
Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
I fail to see how having a "rapid reaction" type Foreign Secretary brings any benefit to anyone.Hiring a jet when necessary seems the best compromise.
Earth Quake in Guatemala? - FO can be there in six hours via private jet, everything's OK.
You see it just doesn't make sense. We maintain a diplomatic corps around the world in many far flung outposts - if we need a "johnny on the spot" we already have HMG representatives there to hold the fort until a scheduled flight can be found.
A private jet is all about an ego that wants to flit around the world at will dipping into things that should and could be dealt with through existing channels or properly scheduled and planned meetings.
Let's take another example - Bomb explodes in Islamabad. HMG wants to express deep concern and sympathy due to strategic nature of current relationship. 15minute phone call to pakistani PM - local facilities at your disposal sir, much sympathy but be strong, we love you loads and you're very important etc etc., maybe followed up with personal visit 5-7 days later when dust has settled slightly.
Why would you need to be there via private jet in under 12 hours?
What would personal presence of For Sec add over and above the phone call scenario? - except garner lots of coverage of unimportant man looking important and concerned stepping off his private jet.
The only proper use for a Foreign Office private jet would be as a suicide weapon if launched against the House of Commons (or Piggery as I will insist on calling it from now on).
What a complete and utter bunch of
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