Clarke, Blunkett, rats desert sinking HMS Winky

[unrepentant]

Big ears is now "ashamed" to be a labour MP. And Blinky has also turned on Winky. Excellent stuff. Further implosions due as Winky leads Labour towards a catastrophic election meltdown.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8028170.stm

[Bing o]

I've been calling an October '09 election for some weeks now, come on Winky, don't let me down.

This man is so incompetent he won't even manage to make one general election!!

[grumbledoak]

If there is an election. They didn't get the Civil Contingencies Act through last time, but I think they are desperate enough to try again. And, the Pig Panic might be their best excuse.

Still, we can hope (that he publicly falls down some stairs. He deserves worse.).

[john_p]

"Obviously Gordon will think about his own position as he rightly should, but I don't think there's a lot of movement around whether Gordon should be moved but there's a lot around saying Gordon has to improve his performance."




Implosion imminent..

Edited by john_p on Friday 1st May 12:58

[unrepentant]

grumbledoak said:

If there is an election. They didn't get the Civil Contingencies Act through last time, but I think they are desperate enough to try again.

? The CCA passed into law on 18th Nov 2004?

[grumbledoak]

unrepentant said:

? The CCA passed into law on 18th Nov 2004?

I must be mis-remembering. Wasn't there something more recent (2008?) that would allow them to postpone an election indefinitely that got defeated?

[unrepentant]

grumbledoak said:

unrepentant said:

? The CCA passed into law on 18th Nov 2004?

I must be mis-remembering. Wasn't there something more recent (2008?) that would allow them to postpone an election indefinitely that got defeated?

The CCA allows for emergency powers in times of national emergency. It replaced various other pieces of emergency powers legislation.

[Invisible man]

Cue Duke of Rothsay telling us that he's doing a great job

[Duke of Rothesay]

Invisible man said:

Cue Duke of Rothsay telling us that he's doing a great job

I think he should be criminally prosecuted with Bliar as co-defendant.

[hornetrider]

Clark and Blunkett have never liked ol' Winky have they?

Men of impeccable taste.

[Invisible man]

Duke of Rothesay said:

Invisible man said:

Cue Duke of Rothsay telling us that he's doing a great job

I think he should be criminally prosecuted with Bliar as co-defendant.

I agree........for once, according to some he presented his budgets in a manner that would have earned a mere mortal accountant a long term inside

[Gunny Sergeant D]

This is the most dangerous man to Cameron. If NuLabia put Clarke in charge, that would appeal to many Lab voters. He's very pragmatic.

[Invisible man]

Gunny Sergeant D said:

This is the most dangerous man to Cameron. If NuLabia put Clarke in charge, that would appeal to many Lab voters. He's very pragmatic.

Interesting, that makes me wonder what we're really concerned with now, party policies? They both seem pretty similar these days, are based on promises and rarely live up to expectations........or the leader of the parties? A frontman whose abilities still seem to be measured by their look of sincerity, shiney suit and bogus smile (as if Blair wasn't warning enough)

Edited by Invisible man on Friday 1st May 14:38

[Martial Arts Man]

Gunny Sergeant D said:

This is the most dangerous man to Cameron. If NuLabia put Clarke in charge, that would appeal to many Lab voters. He's very pragmatic.

Not in the digital age, I don't think.

Clarke is nearly up there with Mc Winky when it comes to audio/visual appeal.

To the average voter that is; Clarke is one of my favoured Labourites. I would vote for him if I was a member of the Brotherhood.

[Gunny Sergeant D]

Invisible man said:

Gunny Sergeant D said:

This is the most dangerous man to Cameron. If NuLabia put Clarke in charge, that would appeal to many Lab voters. He's very pragmatic.

Interesting, that makes me wonder what we're really concerned with now, party policies? They both seem pretty similar these days, are based on promises and rarely live up to expectations........or the leader of the parties? A frontman whose abilities still seem to be measured by their look of sincerity, shiney suit and bogus smile (as if Blair wasn't warning enough)

I disagree, at face value they look the same, but it's their are many things that make such a difference. Under a Tory administration would you have had:

The Social Chapter
A bloated public sector
Academies
Iraq II return of the infidel
Afghanistan - the infidel strikes back
Huge Government debt
10p tax
National minimum wage
Good quality polish lap dancing whenever you need it

[Gunny Sergeant D]

Martial Arts Man said:

Gunny Sergeant D said:

This is the most dangerous man to Cameron. If NuLabia put Clarke in charge, that would appeal to many Lab voters. He's very pragmatic.

Not in the digital age, I don't think.

Clarke is nearly up there with Mc Winky when it comes to audio/visual appeal.

To the average voter that is; Clarke is one of my favoured Labourites. I would vote for him if I was a member of the Brotherhood.

Winky has made so many errors, I think thats his downfall - the man is just deluded. Clarke does not have the baggage but when he speaks he commands respect in a statesman like manner. I agree if I was inclined to vote lefty, I would vote for Clarke.

[Bing o]

Gunny Sergeant D said:

Good quality polish lap dancing whenever you need it

You had me until the last line - I have several eastern european lady friends and they are a lot nicer than the equivalent UK swamp monster.

[tinman0]

Gunny Sergeant D said:

This is the most dangerous man to Cameron. If NuLabia put Clarke in charge, that would appeal to many Lab voters. He's very pragmatic.

Not so sure. Labour are going down the pan at a fantastic rate, and Brown is not going to give up his dream job under any circumstances.

There are two problems.

Firstly, Gordon Brown does not see any of the problems around him of his own making. He still thinks he managed the economy well during his years at number 11. He doesn't see MPs expense fiddles as his problem. He doesn't see the Labour sleaze issue as his problem and so forth. The Labour Party is simply out of control. And he resembles Major's Tory Party.

I always thought at the time that Major's problem was allowing people to mess around in the name of the Conservatives, than bring them into line. He allowed ministers misdemeanors to go on and on before actually getting them to resign, and so forth. No one ever was chastised as everyone was "allowed their say", and that's what tore the party apart and made it unelectable.

Gordon Brown is suffering the same problem. His ministers need firing occasionally when they get it wrong, like Jacqui Smith, Tessa Jowell, and many many others. People within the Labour Party need their memberships cancelled - like McBride and Draper. Both seriously screwed up and brought the Party, and Govt into disrepute.

If you look at the new Conservative Party, much of it is made up of new people. There has been a purge. No one from 97 really holds a top post other than Our Ken (who could also do with shutting his mouth).

The Labour Party are in exactly the same place as the Conservatives in 1997. And are going to be kneed in the groin big time. CMD just needs to keep his mouth shut, and he's been doing that pretty well.

The second issue is that Gordon needs to resign as Party leader and PM. He's not going to do that. This is his dream job. This is it. There is nothing after this. And he is determined that his course is correct for HMS Labour Party, despite a whapping great big iceberg in the way.

And the Labour MPs know full well that there are no lifeboats on HMS Labour Party. When they hit that iceberg, they all go down.

And soon may that day come.

[groucho]

unrepentant said:

grumbledoak said:

If there is an election. They didn't get the Civil Contingencies Act through last time, but I think they are desperate enough to try again.

? The CCA passed into law on 18th Nov 2004?

How did we manage without it?

[Puggit]

tinman0 said:

Gunny Sergeant D said:

This is the most dangerous man to Cameron. If NuLabia put Clarke in charge, that would appeal to many Lab voters. He's very pragmatic.

Not so sure. Labour are going down the pan at a fantastic rate, and Brown is not going to give up his dream job under any circumstances.

There are two problems.

Firstly, Gordon Brown does not see any of the problems around him of his own making. He still thinks he managed the economy well during his years at number 11. He doesn't see MPs expense fiddles as his problem. He doesn't see the Labour sleaze issue as his problem and so forth. The Labour Party is simply out of control. And he resembles Major's Tory Party.

I always thought at the time that Major's problem was allowing people to mess around in the name of the Conservatives, than bring them into line. He allowed ministers misdemeanors to go on and on before actually getting them to resign, and so forth. No one ever was chastised as everyone was "allowed their say", and that's what tore the party apart and made it unelectable.

Gordon Brown is suffering the same problem. His ministers need firing occasionally when they get it wrong, like Jacqui Smith, Tessa Jowell, and many many others. People within the Labour Party need their memberships cancelled - like McBride and Draper. Both seriously screwed up and brought the Party, and Govt into disrepute.

If you look at the new Conservative Party, much of it is made up of new people. There has been a purge. No one from 97 really holds a top post other than Our Ken (who could also do with shutting his mouth).

The Labour Party are in exactly the same place as the Conservatives in 1997. And are going to be kneed in the groin big time. CMD just needs to keep his mouth shut, and he's been doing that pretty well.

The second issue is that Gordon needs to resign as Party leader and PM. He's not going to do that. This is his dream job. This is it. There is nothing after this. And he is determined that his course is correct for HMS Labour Party, despite a whapping great big iceberg in the way.

And the Labour MPs know full well that there are no lifeboats on HMS Labour Party. When they hit that iceberg, they all go down.

And soon may that day come.

There are however a couple of life vests - the era of the defection is about to dawn...