This is a real public service job. Read it and weep.

This is a real public service job. Read it and weep.

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johnfm

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13,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Ladies and Gentlemen Taxpayers, I give you:

Habitats and Plants Team Leader!!

I kid you not


Job Title: Habitats and Plants Team Leader Reference NEE: 27
Salary From £29,000 to a target rate of £37,000 with opportunity to rise to a Higher Performance ceiling of £39,750
Department Natural England

Location(s) Leeds, West Yorkshire, Yorkshire & Humberside
East of England
Brief Description This post will lead the Habitats and Plants team, within the biodiversity group of the Evidence team. The Evidence team provides a national expert service for natural and social sciences across Natural England and to our external partners. We have specialists covering upland, lowland, coastal, freshwater and marine ecosystems; geology, geomorphology and soils; access, recreation and social sciences; and species. We underpin work on the England Biodiversity Strategy and on reporting action for biodiversity across the UK.

We commission and communicate research to ensure that we have the evidence base to deliver Natural England's outcomes. For example, we provide the evidence base to inform our policy and advocacy work; we provide specialist expertise to help resolve difficult land and marine management issues; we provide expert support to the administration of Environmental Stewardship; we research the reasons for decline of many species and trial practical ways to reverse these declines; we provide an expert service to support the most difficult casework issues facing our Regional and Area Teams


Working Arrangement Full time
Closing Date 19 May 2009
More information on job reference NEE: 27

johnfm

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13,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Look at these:

Job Title: Partner Marketing Manager Reference 28058
Salary £35000 - £37500 Per Annum
Department The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission

Location(s) Leeds, West Yorkshire, Yorkshire & Humberside

Brief Description The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission is looking to appoint a Partner Marketing Manager. The Commission is responsible for all aspects of child maintenance in Great Britain. Its role is to promote financial responsibility, encourage and support private maintenance arrangements as well as provide a statutory maintenance service. It will be innovative in its approach, harnessing the expertise of the public, private and third sectors.

The role will comprise management of partner marketing activity across the whole of the Commission and all of its constituent bodies.

Working Arrangement Full time
Closing Date 18 May 2009
More information on job reference 28058
Job Title: Marketing and Communications Project Manager Reference 28059
Salary £35000 - £37500 Per Annum
Department The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission

Location(s) Leeds, West Yorkshire, Yorkshire & Humberside

Brief Description The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission is looking for a Marketing and Communications Project Manager. The Commission are responsible for all aspects of child maintenance in Great Britain. Its role is to promote financial responsibility, encourage and support private maintenance arrangements as well as provide a statutory maintenance service. It will be innovative in its approach, harnessing the expertise of the public, private and third sectors.

The Marketing and Communications Project Manager will report to the Marketing and Communications Business Support Manager, in the Commission Executive's Customer and Commissioning Directorate.

The role will comprise management of all Marketing and Communications projects.



Working Arrangement Full time
Closing Date 18 May 2009
More information on job reference 28059
Job Title: HR Business Partner Reference 28063
Salary Circa £45,000
Department The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission

Location(s) Leeds, West Yorkshire, Yorkshire & Humberside

Brief Description The Child Maintenance and Enforcement Commission (the Commission) is a Crown Non-Departmental Public Body established to maximise the number of children who live apart from one or both of their parents for whom effective maintenance arrangements are in place.

The jobholder will report to the Commission Executive HR Services Manager.

The role will involve provison of Human Resources services and professional advice to the senior leadership team across the Commission.


Working Arrangement Full time,Job share
Closing Date 18 May 2009
More information on job reference 28063

turbobloke

106,808 posts

266 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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role spec said:
we research the reasons for decline of many species and trial practical ways to reverse these declines
Interfering with nature eh - natural fiddler wanted. Presumably they must oppose Darwinism and be otherwise gullible. No mention of the pension scheme, clearly a sensitive area. Anybody thinking of applying?

johnfm

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13,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Do you think the MPs know jobs like these exist?

I cannot believe any sane person would look at some of these £40k+ jobs and think "that's a good use of taxpayer funds'



johnfm

Original Poster:

13,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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So, this one is £55k+ to run the rewards scheme for the Land registry!!

How big must the Land Registry be to need a HR rewards manager on £55k+????


Job Title: Grade 7 Head of Reward and HR Policy Reference 500/09/002
Salary £54377 - £60874 Per Annum
Department Land Registry

Location(s) City of London, Greater London, London

Brief Description As a member of the HR Senior Management Team and managing a small team, you will lead and coordinate the reward strategy for the organisation to ensure that Land Registry has a Reward Strategy that meets the needs of the business and meets best practise as defined by Cabinet Office guidelines. You will also lead and coordinate other areas of HR policy activity.

Working Arrangement Full time
Closing Date 13 May 2009
More information on job reference 500/09/002

ninja-lewis

4,470 posts

196 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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9,000 over 24 sites apparently. However, I believe the Land Registry doesn't actually use taxpayer money - it manages to fund itself from fees and charges.

tank slapper

7,949 posts

289 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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I saw a job advertised a while back, which was for a 'Dignity and Diversity manager'. The job description was something like 'your role will be to promote dignity and diversity in the workplace'.

The salary was £45k+ with quite a few other benefits. I still have absolutely no idea what the job actually was because the advert was entirely written in newspeak.

johnfm

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13,668 posts

256 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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I'd apply for some of these, but the bullst job descriptions make little sense.

cottonfoo

6,016 posts

216 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Go for it, you have nothing to lose by applying smile

fluffnik

20,156 posts

233 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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I reckon you could purge 20-50% of the "Civil Service" and pretty much all the quangos without anyone but the newly "Job Seeking" being adversely affected...

fluffnik

20,156 posts

233 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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cottonfoo said:
Go for it, you have nothing to lose by applying smile
...except your dignity.

cottonfoo

6,016 posts

216 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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fluffnik said:
...except your dignity.
Perhaps, but I'm employed too so there's little real difference. These jobs don't disappear along with ailing governments smile

I should add, he may well do it better!

Edited by cottonfoo on Friday 1st May 00:19

fluffnik

20,156 posts

233 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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cottonfoo said:
These jobs don't disappear along with ailing governments smile
They should.

turbobloke

106,808 posts

266 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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fluffnik said:
cottonfoo said:
These jobs don't disappear along with ailing governments smile
They should.
Some will, June 2010 on.

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

290 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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turbobloke said:
role spec said:
we research the reasons for decline of many species and trial practical ways to reverse these declines
Interfering with nature eh - natural fiddler wanted. Presumably they must oppose Darwinism and be otherwise gullible. No mention of the pension scheme, clearly a sensitive area. Anybody thinking of applying?
I was (briefly and cynically) involved with a conservation group at Uni, for the clunge.

ISTR that almost all of the UK countryside is actively managed, and has been for hundreds if not thousands of years. "Conversation" in the UK means precisely "not allowing nature to take over".

Leaving it to "Darwinism" would result in ugly and usuable countryside and the destruction of much of our rural heritage.

You may be right about this particular job, I'm not sure, but having worked around the public sector for a few years there are plenty of proper "non-jobs" I'd cull before this one.

turbobloke

106,808 posts

266 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Nature knows best. Humans have developed intelligence then used it to generate technology all through natural evolution, and we continue to use it, that's natural too - other species need to adapt or die out, that's natural. This isn't to say we should randomly exterminate things in time honoured manner, but by being natural and existing and being part of the biosphere in all we do (something a lot of people forget) adapt or die natural Darwinism is the best way forward.

This is because, as soon as deliberate choices are made with associated acts beyond what we ourselves need to do to survive and develop, political will enters the equation. As to be expected this is a disaster. So these days the equivalent of poor brown hungry organisms are made out to be saintly and vast sums of money are wasted spent on their 'cause' while white middle class taxpaying organisms can go fry themselves.

Conservation is a scientifically weird activity. What makes a particular biodiversity snapshot in time worthy of eternal preservation? It's random and unnatural.

This approach to nature as a politically correct fashion show is already off the rials. The post advertised is a waste of money. We need more people to empty bins and sweep the streets and mop up vomit and urine in High Street shop doorways, that's a useful environmental job. Is it in the Garudian?

Jasandjules

70,415 posts

235 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Are we meant to be surprised at these jobs? I mean, look at the Guardian job pages if you REALLY want to raise your blood pressure.


HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

290 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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turbobloke said:
Conservation is a scientifically weird activity. What makes a particular biodiversity snapshot in time worthy of eternal preservation? It's random and unnatural.
In my experience, conversation in the UK is largely an aesthetic and practical activity, which is supported (to a degree) by science (e.g. understanding plant spore migration patterns).

turbobloke said:
What makes a particular biodiversity snapshot in time worthy of eternal preservation?
If you want to go for a nice walk in the countryside, you really don't want to have to hack your way through naturally-selected undergrowth with a machete.

There are terminology overlaps between "save the polar bears" type conservation and "maintain our historic woodlands" type conservation, and the activities attract some of the same people, but they're really quite idealogically opposed. One is about trying to "save nature from man" the other is about "saving man from nature".

Mowing your lawn is an aesthetic conversation effort which acts against biodiversity.

turbobloke

106,808 posts

266 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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In which case I doubt we disagree that much but I'm sure you'll let me know if not so smile

Mr Whippy

29,522 posts

247 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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I hope I am not the only one, but WHAT would I actually be doing in any of those jobs?

Just bullstting my way into about £30,000-£50,000 a year?