HM Revenue & Customs is to spend £1 billion on enforcement

HM Revenue & Customs is to spend £1 billion on enforcement

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Fittster

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20,120 posts

219 months

Monday 27th April 2009
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Gordon wants your money!

"HM Revenue & Customs is to spend £1 billion on enforcement and compliance this year to cut tax avoidance and evasion by £2.4 billion, Britain's most senior tax collector said last night.

Less than a week after the Chancellor proposed a rise in income tax to 50 per cent for the highest earners, the Revenue said that it would spend a quarter of its £4 billion budget on catching tax-dodgers. Lesley Strathie, who took over as the HMRC's chief executive and permanent secretary five months ago, said that the organisation would relentlessly pursue those who bent or broke the rules.

The clampdown comes after a change of tack by the Revenue's prosecutors last year. In its “litigation and settlement review” the Revenue promised to take more people to court to recover tax instead of cutting deals in out-of-court settlements. With companies and individuals prepared to defend themselves in court, such a strategy has proved expensive.

Hartley Foster, a tax partner in DLA, the law firm, said that it was no surprise that the Revenue would divert more money to enforcement after introducing a deliberate strategy of picking more costly court fights. He said that since the Revenue was under pressure to increase its overall tax take, it appeared to have decided that enforcement was a worthwhile area on which to spend money. "

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article...

I can think of a number of IT contractors who won't be sleeping easy tonight.


EDLT

15,421 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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They are completly mental. I doubt they will ever recover half of the £2.4 billion they are chasing after, people will just go bankrupt/emigrate before they are caught.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Thought they were closing offices and shedding staff....?

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

213 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Gonna take on the "Black Economy", in all it's forms, are they?
I doubt it.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

250 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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enforcement and compliance this year to cut tax avoidance and evasion
Perhaps they could start with the cabinet?

Guybrush

4,364 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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I wonder how much it costs to employ (and pay the index-linked pensions for) the tens of thousands who work in Revenue and Customs. rolleyes

Jasandjules

70,415 posts

235 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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You have to speculate to accumulate....

SGirl

7,921 posts

267 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Oh look. Another Labour stick without a carrot. What a surprise. rolleyes

As mentioned above - don't suppose they'll be looking at the Black Economy, will they? Just at the so-called rich people.

Puggit

48,762 posts

254 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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They need to get their own house in order first. Mrs Puggit received a £100 late fine, despite being a month early with her return.

The letter about the fine arrived 3 weeks after the written date - giving her 1 week to pay.

On appeal she won, apparently - the £100 fine was repaid, but no letter of acknowledgement.

As per above, they will recoup less than the £2.4bn planned - and I'd guess less than the £1bn it costs - but at least they'll employ more people mad

Plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Guybrush said:
I wonder how much it costs to employ (and pay the index-linked pensions for) the tens of thousands who work in Revenue and Customs. rolleyes
£31Bn

£500 for every man, woman and child in the country.

Out of hand, isnt it?

Jasandjules

70,415 posts

235 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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SGirl said:
Just at the so-called rich people.
I doubt that. Most of the Labour Ministers are somewhat wealthy, with multiple homes and assets offshore...... That's why those loop holes which were, according to Mr Brown when in opposition, a disgrace, still exist now after 11 years of the self serving scum being in power...


Saddle bum

4,211 posts

225 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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The perceived wisdom is that HMRC has more computing power than the NHS. Goes to prove where the priorites lie with the gubbermint.

If everyone adopted the mantra that "Taxation is Theft", there could be a shift in attitude away from blind compliance.

Northern Munkee

5,354 posts

206 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Jasandjules said:
SGirl said:
Just at the so-called rich people.
I doubt that. Most of the Labour Ministers are somewhat wealthy, with multiple homes and assets offshore...... That's why those loop holes which were, according to Mr Brown when in opposition, a disgrace, still exist now after 11 years of the self serving scum being in power...
So are we all voting vince cable, lib dem, or we voting for our own self servers from our own constituency?

plasticpig

12,932 posts

231 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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SGirl said:
Oh look. Another Labour stick without a carrot. What a surprise. rolleyes

As mentioned above - don't suppose they'll be looking at the Black Economy, will they? Just at the so-called rich people.
They do quite a lot of investigation in to the black economy actually. For instance there have been several cases of prostitutes being given heavy tax bills. They have even gone so far as to claim that prostitutes in brothel's are infact employee's of the brothel owner and give the owner a large bill for NI.

MikeyT

16,830 posts

277 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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I didn't send in my tax return this year as I thought I'd test the £100 fine procedure (I have been PAYE since 2002). I duly got the fine, appealed it, and was successful. they said in the letter no need to fill in any more tax returns.

fk me if they didn't this week send another tax return though ...

Deva Link

26,934 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Fittster said:
I can think of a number of IT contractors who won't be sleeping easy tonight.
Copied from the comments attached to the article:

"How much have all the failed IR35 investigations cost the revenue? The current track record (from www.pcg.org.uk) shows that they have lost 1462 cases and won a mere 6. Let's hope they spend this money elsewhere."

ewenm

28,506 posts

251 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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Einion Yrth said:
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enforcement and compliance this year to cut tax avoidance and evasion
Perhaps they could start with the cabinet?
It's an interesting tactic - tax avoidance is legal, tax evasion is not, and yet HMRC are trying to lump the two together. If the government simplified and rationalised the tax system, perhaps there would be fewer loopholes for people to exploit (avoidance) and they could reduce costs at HMRC.

chris watton

22,478 posts

266 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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ewenm said:
Einion Yrth said:
. said:
enforcement and compliance this year to cut tax avoidance and evasion
Perhaps they could start with the cabinet?
It's an interesting tactic - tax avoidance is legal, tax evasion is not, and yet HMRC are trying to lump the two together. If the government simplified and rationalised the tax system, perhaps there would be fewer loopholes for people to exploit (avoidance) and they could reduce costs at HMRC.
They say the same in Italy, when the tax system was fair and the government wasn't so greedy, more revenue was raised, but since hiking up the rates to unreasonable levels, everyone tries to avoid paying it, and revenues are reduced.
Not rocket science really - still, if it makes the hard of thinking feel better about taxing bankers etc more, it's OK......

Mr Whippy

29,522 posts

247 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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They should simplify tax, reduce evasion and avoidance because of it, and reduce collection costs... win win win... but they can't hide stealth taxes that way... doh!

Stealth taxed at our expense to fook us over. You can't beat the Labour government rolleyes

SGirl

7,921 posts

267 months

Tuesday 28th April 2009
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plasticpig said:
SGirl said:
Oh look. Another Labour stick without a carrot. What a surprise. rolleyes

As mentioned above - don't suppose they'll be looking at the Black Economy, will they? Just at the so-called rich people.
They do quite a lot of investigation in to the black economy actually. For instance there have been several cases of prostitutes being given heavy tax bills. They have even gone so far as to claim that prostitutes in brothel's are infact employee's of the brothel owner and give the owner a large bill for NI.
Well, that's actually good to know! At least they're doing something. What about builders, plumbers, all the cash-in-handers? How are they approaching that issue, any ideas?

Not being sarky - it's a genuine query. I'm interested to know. smile