Harperson strikes again

[Puggit]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8019605.stm

All companies over 250 employees most publish how much their women earn in relation to men.

[Bing o]

Good - I know for a fact I am on 20k less than a more junior female colleague....

Ah, but I'm a man, therefore that's OK...

[Dunk76]

fking hell, we have a Minister for Equality?

What the hell do we need a Minister for Equality for? The proliferation of non-jobs starts at the very top, and the current dumbing-down of the titles of Ministerial and Governmental positions is perhaps the most telling indicator of just how far we've sunk, nationally. Everything has cranked down to the lowest common demonination Jade Goody levels of intelligence and situational awareness.

What was wrong with a Home, Foreign, Defence, and Chancellor? Why the hell does every single sodding interest group require it's own bloody Minister?

Ah, yes of course, Ministerial priviledge.

Edited by Dunk76 on Monday 27th April 09:02

[Stevenj214]

Bing o said:

Good - I know for a fact I am on 20k less than a more junior female colleague....

Ah, but I'm a man, therefore that's OK...

Well are you willing to perform exactly the same duties? On your knees boy!

On a more serious note, I wonder where her figures are from. The ONS says there is a gap - http://www.statistics.gov.uk/CCI/nugget.asp?ID=167... however "Although median hourly pay provides a useful comparison between the earnings of men and women, it does not necessarily indicate differences in rates of pay for comparable jobs. Pay medians are affected by the different work patterns of men and women, such as the proportions in different occupations and their length of time in jobs."

Despite the fact that gender shouldn't be used as a factor on it's own, gender does have an effect on other areas. It is still more likely that a woman will stay at home to look after the family. If they do get back into the labour market at some point, of course they will be disadvantaged. Even when women make the choice to follow a career path, if they also decide to have a child, then what could be a choice between an identical male and female candidate 6 months prior is now a choice between almost identical candidates except for one having more experience.

I agree that in like-for-like jobs, pay should be more or less equal, however looking at it as average hourly rate or males v females is ludicrous.

[neilr]

Im all for men and women who, in performing identical duties being paid the same, that seems only fair doesn't it?

However, it's not about equality, never has been. It's about getting more money and power for women NOT making sure women and men are on a level playig field. As a poster here points out, he's being paid less than a junior colleague. Taking that at face value (not knowing the details etc) then if it were about equality he would be able to do something about it. But, he's a man so he can't.

Lets just remember it was called Womens Lib, not Womens equality. Some people might suggest im slightly cynical....