So the Euro is it going up or down?

So the Euro is it going up or down?

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fridaypassion

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9,152 posts

234 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Got holidays coming up in june so have been watching the exchange rate wobble about all over the place for the past fewxl weeks. Over the last couple of days it's lost 3p to the correct currency (£) so 1.13 down to 1.10 now. Wondering weather to hold out for a better rate or buy now if it's looking like it could slide again? Hopefully all the bad news is out there now so my gut feeling was we would see it creeping up? Knowledge on these matters is not vast so opinions welcome!

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

290 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Everybody doesn't know. Somebody knows, but you don't know who that somebody is. They might know they know, but then other people think they know but don't, so you don't which body to listen to.

HTH.

johnfm

13,668 posts

256 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Are you taking £500,000 on holiday? If not, the real difference will be 3/8ths of fk all anyway in real terms. 30 Euro per £1000 in the example you gave.

Nobody knows anyway - how could they?

magic torch

5,781 posts

228 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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If you buy Euros now, they'll crash. Hold off and the pound will rise.

There's a name for this law.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

255 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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J - you must be laughing at the moment?

any news on an email address?

chippy17

3,740 posts

249 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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at some point the world will realise that Europe is as screwed as everywhere else and the Euro/£ will come back to sensible level at some point in the near future

just so you know I have no idea if the above is rubbish or not I just made it up!?

Edited by chippy17 on Friday 24th April 13:49

magic torch

5,781 posts

228 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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sleep envy said:
J - you must be laughing at the moment?

any news on an email address?
15th of May the Euro will crash wink

Not yet, should have a name later, will text you tonight.

fridaypassion

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9,152 posts

234 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Ok cheers for the replies......I think?

I posted on the off chance there might be someone who does have some knowledge in the field. Your more likley to in a poker match if you know the rules smile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

255 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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magic torch said:
sleep envy said:
J - you must be laughing at the moment?

any news on an email address?
15th of May the Euro will crash wink

Not yet, should have a name later, will text you tonight.
don't joke - I need a GT3

ta!

Bing o

15,184 posts

225 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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fridaypassion said:
Ok cheers for the replies......I think?

I posted on the off chance there might be someone who does have some knowledge in the field. Your more likley to in a poker match if you know the rules smile
Lot's of people have knowledge. Trying to predict anything is hard enough at the best of times. This is not the best of times.

From my opinion, it really doesn't matter - buy them now, you might loose a bit, you might gain a bit. Buy them later, you might loose a bit, you might gain a bit.


HundredthIdiot

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290 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Bing o said:
From my opinion, it really doesn't matter - buy them now, you might loose a bit, you might gain a bit. Buy them later, you might loose a bit, you might gain a bit.
This ignores the disproportionate effect of downside risk.

If you buy them now, you are buying the certainty that you will able to afford your holiday. If the pound crashes, you still go. If the pound soars, you exchange more and feel great.

If you don't buy them now, and the pound crashes, you will not only have a crap holiday (or not be able to go at all), but you'll also come back to soaring inflation on imported goods.

Mclovin

1,679 posts

204 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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keep the currency in the country your living because their all in strife at the moment...

unrepentant

21,671 posts

262 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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fridaypassion said:
Ok cheers for the replies......I think?

I posted on the off chance there might be someone who does have some knowledge in the field. Your more likley to in a poker match if you know the rules smile
Nobody knows, that's the point. Have you not noticed that the stock markets and the currency markets have been yo-yoing like crazy since last September? The city "experts" have been exposed as clueless.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

204 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Lets say your going to spend E1k Euros over the holiday. Its impossible to know what will happen however it could go up down or be the same, one way of reducing your risk is to buy some now and then some later (of course you need to ensure tha the buying costsdont negate and potential upside.)

You could opt for 1/3rd now then 1/3rd in a few weeks then 1/3rd when you go or if things start to go th wrong way then change 2/3rd instead of 2*1/3'ds.

Then again currently its c89p:E if you assume it could move around in the 0.85:E - 0.95:E how much is that really going o cost you?

@ 0.85 E1k will cost £850
@ 0.89 E1k will cost £890
@ 0.95 E1k will cost £950

So were currently on 0.89 thus I'd say the max gain/loss in buyig now vs buying later could be +£40 or -£60. I'd say if the rate goes up a bit now/soon then buy and be done with it.
Of course if your only taking say E500 then its really not worth the heart ache - focus more on the best commission/total cost to change than just on the rate you get

ianash

3,282 posts

189 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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The Daily Telegraph was saying that the Euro is now 15% overvalued against Sterling. I went out the other day to buy 500 Euro's and got 1.10 to the pound at Thos Cooke. As most of my June holiday costs have been paid already, I'm figuring that the 500 will cover most of my other out of pocket expences. I have a strong feeling that the Euro is going to be hit very hard soon, but whether Sterling will benefit is hard to believe given "looking glass" Darling is clueless as to what the UK economy is really doing. I expect this years French trip will involve a few picnics in place of restaurant meals.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

204 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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ianash said:
The Daily Telegraph was saying that the Euro is now 15% overvalued against Sterling. I went out the other day to buy 500 Euro's and got 1.10 to the pound at Thos Cooke. As most of my June holiday costs have been paid already, I'm figuring that the 500 will cover most of my other out of pocket expences. I have a strong feeling that the Euro is going to be hit very hard soon, but whether Sterling will benefit is hard to believe given "looking glass" Darling is clueless as to what the UK economy is really doing. I expect this years French trip will involve a few picnics in place of restaurant meals.
E500 unless either currency has a huge movement will not cost/gain you mcuh either way in £ terms (% wise for sue it will).

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

290 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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ianash said:
The Daily Telegraph was saying that the Euro is now 15% overvalued against Sterling.
A peculiar assertion for them to make, although not the first time I've heard it. Overvalued compared to what?

The price is the market.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

255 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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love the way they quantify it at 15% too rolleyes

ianash

3,282 posts

189 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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HundredthIdiot said:
ianash said:
The Daily Telegraph was saying that the Euro is now 15% overvalued against Sterling.
A peculiar assertion for them to make, although not the first time I've heard it. Overvalued compared to what?

The price is the market.
Against Sterling. I guess if you look at the southern european economies and now Germany looking like it's going to contract by 6% this year, they may have a point. The likelyhood is that all of Europe is pretty fecked, so the UK is in good company. At least we can look forward to throwing the current chancer's out on their sorry arse.

fridaypassion

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234 months

Friday 24th April 2009
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Just for prespective its a 2 week holiday that I will be looking to spend a total of around £2500 on so the extra couple of % on the exchange rate is making a difference!