Ronnie Biggs hopefull for parole

[ofcorsa]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/23/ronnie-bi...

Apparently his family feel he has paid for his crimes

By living abroad for the past 30 years. The mind boggles

[Martial Arts Man]

I don't see the issue really.

To be honest, I'd run off if given a 30yr sentance for robbing a train!

What is the average spell for a murderer these days, let alone a robber? Certainly nowhere near 3 decades!

Biggs is an old, dying man. What difference does it make really?

[grumbledoak]

Hmmm. Evaded his sentence and only came back for the health care.

Dying or not, I think he should serve whatever part of his sentence a younger, fit man would serve.

[V8mate]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8129146...

Parole turned down.

Carried out a robbery 46 years ago. He's 80 this year and broke his hip last weekend.

How is the Home Secretary sending any kind of positive message out?

[whitechief]

V8mate said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8129146...

Parole turned down.

Carried out a robbery 46 years ago. He's 80 this year and broke his hip last weekend.

How is the Home Secretary sending any kind of positive message out?

I see he had Giovanni Di Stefano representing him, that can't have helped his case.

[cazzer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihz5TjiNiiE

Ronnie Biggs was doing time
Till he done a bunk
Now he says he's seen the light
and sold his soul for punk

[eldar]

V8mate said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/8129146...

Parole turned down.

Carried out a robbery 46 years ago. He's 80 this year and broke his hip last weekend.

How is the Home Secretary sending any kind of positive message out?

What would the sentence have been if he killed 3 police during the robbery?

[eldar]

haworthlloyd1 said:

keep him in jail till he dies

the man hit during the robbery with the iron bar never fully recovered

The same sentence (possibly) that Harry Roberts will get for killing 3 police. Kind of send the message that adding murder to robbery is no worse than robbery and just seriously injuring people.

[Cara Van Man]

tough st.

If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

His ability to re-offend is irrelavent.

He skipped the country and refused to carry out his original sentence. Tit.

He's never shown any remorse, so let the fker die behind bars.

[Bullett]

Tough. he did the crime got caught and ran away, hid in Brazil for almost 30 years.
Came back for his own selfish reasons, got caught again and is now serving the sentance he should have served and finished at least 20 years ago.

[elster]

So instead of letting him pay for his medical care over the next few years until he dies, the tax payers have to. Why not just say look after yourself.

It will be costing 50k+ to keep him for every year he lives, plus any other major medical issues he has.

[AndrewW-G]

Does anybody know how many years he's actually served behind bars?

I think for once the home sec's message may just be on target "crime doesnt pay, especially if you spend 30 years chuckling at us because we couldnt have you deported"

[pies]

I think its about 8 or 9

[Mclovin]

hes a role model to those of society who live in the gutter, the ones that complain on the tv and radio about not being given a free house...maybe they can sell their council house, pull off a nice crime and run off to brazil...me i say bring back hanging just for the scumbag...

[CommanderJameson]

elster said:

So instead of letting him pay for his medical care over the next few years until he dies, the tax payers have to. Why not just say look after yourself.

It will be costing 50k+ to keep him for every year he lives, plus any other major medical issues he has.

So?

[Police State]

Martial Arts Man said:

I don't see the issue really.

To be honest, I'd run off if given a 30yr sentance for robbing a train!

What is the average spell for a murderer these days, let alone a robber? Certainly nowhere near 3 decades!

Biggs is an old, dying man. What difference does it make really?

I agree with you, it doesn’t make any difference, except if the crown would release him, then perhaps they would show us that they had some sense of compassion. He should never have got 30 years in the first place; it was a vindictive sentence that was set in a time when there was a much clearer line between 'us' and the establishment. He stole crown money, and when you steal their money, they extract the maximum vengeance. Meanwhile fast forward forty years and you can be complicit in the murder of a police officer in the act of preventing a robbery involving significantly less money and get 20, take a 1/3rd of that and call it 14 years. He is a very frail old man with multiple serious medical issues, at one point when he was imprisoned at HMP Bellmarsh; he was handcuffed to his hospital bed because they regarded a frail old man who was almost completely invalid due to multiple strokes, an escape risk. This from the UK's highest security prison... His sentence was malicious, and if he were given it today, the court of appeal would lessen it on the grounds that it was an unnecessarily arbitrary sentence based more on spite than justice.

[MentalSarcasm]

If he had been released then loads of PHers would be screaming that the current government has no backbone and that he should be locked up for the rest of his life, or until he completes his sentance.

[elster]

CommanderJameson said:

elster said:

So instead of letting him pay for his medical care over the next few years until he dies, the tax payers have to. Why not just say look after yourself.

It will be costing 50k+ to keep him for every year he lives, plus any other major medical issues he has.

So?

So you agree crime does pay?

If you can spend 30 years living off what you stole, come back to the UK when ill and get the state to pay for it.

Kick him out of the prison, let him die without being able to claim benefits and pay for all his own treatment.

[Ganglandboss]

Michael Biggs said:

My father has been made to serve a long sentence because of his surname

Err...I think it might have something to do with robbing a train, mate!

[CommanderJameson]

elster said:

CommanderJameson said:

elster said:

So instead of letting him pay for his medical care over the next few years until he dies, the tax payers have to. Why not just say look after yourself.

It will be costing 50k+ to keep him for every year he lives, plus any other major medical issues he has.

So?

So you agree crime does pay?

If you can spend 30 years living off what you stole, come back to the UK when ill and get the state to pay for it.

Kick him out of the prison, let him die without being able to claim benefits and pay for all his own treatment.

If the silly sod had not buggered off to Brazil, he'd be out by now, probably making a crappy living on the after-dinner circuit for gang dinners, or something.

If they turf him out, he'll be treated on the NHS like everyone else, and I'm sure you know that.

Let him die behind bars.