CIA Waterboarding

[dinkel]

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/04/18/khali...

Illegal stuff going on . . .

[tinman0]

So the guy who masterminded 9/11 got waterboarded 183 times in a single month.

Hell, I would have done it 184 times every month for the rest of his life, and I wouldn't be asking for any information. I'd do it for fun.

[Jazzer77]

tinman0 said:

So the guy who masterminded 9/11 got waterboarded 183 times in a single month.

Hell, I would have done it 184 times every month for the rest of his life, and I wouldn't be asking for any information. I'd do it for fun.

What seperates us from the "bad" guys then?
We are nations of rules & laws , they are scum who commit barbarous acts.

[Munter]

Jazzer77 said:

We are nations of rules & laws , they are scum who commit barbarous acts.

...isn't that what they say as well.

The guy is a nasty piece of work and I'm not too worried how he was treated. But given the ammount of sessions they did (if that information is accurate), you have to wonder if it's effective. Or if they were not using it right, thus making it not effective.

[Carfolio]

As well as confessing to the 9/11 attacks, he also confessed to having been on the grassy knoll, being the animatronix engineer for Nessie and sometimes wearing a gorilla suit and traipsing around the Himalayan foothills.

[prand]

Has anyone tried waterboarding? I'm too old now, but I'm sure we would have given this a go at school "for a laff" just to see what it was like, and really how terrifying it is. We used to do lots of silly things like strangling each other to knock each other out, inhaling tippex thinners & deodorant for kicks, so I'm sure waterboarding would have occurred at some point.

Edited by prand on Monday 20th April 14:07

[tinman0]

Carfolio said:

As well as confessing to the 9/11 attacks, he also confessed to having been on the grassy knoll, being the animatronix engineer for Nessie and sometimes wearing a gorilla suit and traipsing around the Himalayan foothills.

There you go then. Clear up all these outstanding questions in one.

[Muntu]

Steven Crowder has a good take on some of the issues

[Jasandjules]

You simply cannot claim to be fighting for truth and justice, then torture people....

[ShadownINja]

Why is it called waterboarding?

[dinkel]

Jasandjules said:

You simply cannot claim to be fighting for truth and justice, then torture people....

I'd thought the Yanks have learned from the 60s . . . but no.

[Munter]

Jasandjules said:

You simply cannot claim to be fighting for truth and justice, then torture people....

Some people would claim we torture 1000s of prisoners everyday by keeping them locked up.

You have to draw a line somewhere and say x is acceptable and y is not.

Which is worse? 7 days solitary or 20mins waterboarding?

[350GT]

The difference is that being locked upo doesn't make you feel like you are about to die. depressed, maybe, but not in imminent danger of death.

[Munter]

350GT said:

The difference is that being locked upo doesn't make you feel like you are about to die. depressed, maybe, but not in imminent danger of death.

It can lead to depression and suicide along with the captive hearing voices etc. It can leave permanent mental damage. Does that not count as torture?

[V8mate]

Torture? Or just a bl00dy good wash?

What does the equipment look like?

[350GT]

They basically lie you on your back, drape a towel over your face, and pour water over you. It sounds pretty lame, but by all accounts it gives you the impression of drowning, and it terrifying.

[Munter]

V8mate said:

Torture? Or just a bl00dy good wash?

What does the equipment look like?

[tinman0]

350GT said:

They basically lie you on your back, drape a towel over your face, and pour water over you. It sounds pretty lame, but by all accounts it gives you the impression of drowning, and it terrifying.

not terrifying enough it would seem if they had to go back 183 times.

[350GT]

tinman0 said:

350GT said:

They basically lie you on your back, drape a towel over your face, and pour water over you. It sounds pretty lame, but by all accounts it gives you the impression of drowning, and it terrifying.

not terrifying enough it would seem if they had to go back 183 times.

Of course, what they tell you after 183 waterboardings is hardly going to be reliable!

[esselte]

350GT said:

tinman0 said:

350GT said:

They basically lie you on your back, drape a towel over your face, and pour water over you. It sounds pretty lame, but by all accounts it gives you the impression of drowning, and it terrifying.

not terrifying enough it would seem if they had to go back 183 times.

Of course, what they tell you after 183 waterboardings is hardly going to be reliable!

I suppose you could also throw in random questions, the answers of which you already know,to test the accuracy of their answers....if you get my drift..