NOS on BBC Breakfast News 8/4/09
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Did anyone else see the laughable piece on BBC Breakfast this morning about how "Boy Racers with modified cars and NOS should be banned" or some such rubbish. It was a total non-story as far as I could make out. Someone (not sure who) was apparently calling for a change in the law regards modifying cars... as guess what - they want to BAN something.
Can't find a link to it at the moment.
Can't find a link to it at the moment.
The trouble is that there are plenty of countries (many in the EU) where modifications are either more-or-less banned, or heavily policed. There's always some muppet with no knowledge who is ready to demand more "everybody knows" legislation without any information or statistics to back it up.
I'm sure there are Australian PH members who will explain how this could end.
BBC Report
I'm sure there are Australian PH members who will explain how this could end.
BBC Report
Edited by gareth_r on Wednesday 8th April 10:15
Its just scuh poor reporting though!!!!
Its not the cars killing people, its the unskilled drivers of said cars that do.
Its another case of idiots wanting to punish everyone for the faults of the minority!
Try making the driving test harder and cover more aspects of general driving, and maybe we wouldn't have so many il-prepared muppets on the road creating dangers!
Also, they were making a point that this leads to issues of modified cars not being insured! Thats a social issue, and not a problem with the car. Talk about passing on the blame!
This was a real piss boiler this morning. Felt like punching the tv it was sooo bad. Just not a fair or truthful representation of things if you ask me. Standard we expect from the BBC these days though.
Its not the cars killing people, its the unskilled drivers of said cars that do.
Its another case of idiots wanting to punish everyone for the faults of the minority!
Try making the driving test harder and cover more aspects of general driving, and maybe we wouldn't have so many il-prepared muppets on the road creating dangers!
Also, they were making a point that this leads to issues of modified cars not being insured! Thats a social issue, and not a problem with the car. Talk about passing on the blame!
This was a real piss boiler this morning. Felt like punching the tv it was sooo bad. Just not a fair or truthful representation of things if you ask me. Standard we expect from the BBC these days though.
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Its just scuh poor reporting though!!!!
...
Just not a fair or truthful representation of things if you ask me. Standard we expect from the BBC these days though.
Agreed....
Just not a fair or truthful representation of things if you ask me. Standard we expect from the BBC these days though.
Here's the full article as it stands at 11:21 am 8/4/09
BBC_Newsbeat said:
Page last updated at 06:46 GMT, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 07:46 UK
Lives are being put at risk by young motorists who modify their cars to boost performance, says the AA.
The motoring organisation wants tighter controls for things like nitrous oxide kits which are used to massively increase an engine's power.
AA Chairman Edmund King says it's young motorists who are most at risk and he wants to see new rules about how much people can modify their cars.
Five hundred young people die in car crashes across the UK every year.
Nitrous oxide is just one of the things motorists are using to soup-up their cars and make them go faster.
It's usually known as laughing gas and used to make fillings less painful at the dentist. But in a car it has a very different effect.
Twenty-five-year-old car-owner Dale Vodden wants his wheels to say something about him and has so far spent about £16,000 on it.
He's had a nitrous oxide kit added to his Toyota MR2 which boosts the engine from 158 to nearly 300 brake horsepower.
He isn't worried and says the car can take it: "The suspension is modified, it sits nicer, it handles nicer. It's up to spec basically."
Trevor Langfield says he vets drivers before fitting new systems
Trevor Langfield has been fitting legal nitrous oxide systems for more than 30 years.
He says he vets each individual customer and only fits more powerful systems when a driver has proved it can be used safely.
He said: "What you're doing is just putting more oxygen and more fuel into the engine and that burns to make more power."
However the AA is worried about inexperienced drivers behind the wheels of such powerful cars.
King added: "We believe that many hundreds of lives are put at risk by these modified cars.
"Some 20% of new drivers have a crash in their first year of driving.
"If you then put them in a modified car that's harder to control, that's faster, that has an extra 200 brake horsepower, then accidents are much more likely to happen."
The AA says it would like new rules on modifications, including nitrous oxide, but there are no current plans to change the law.
I intend to write and make a complaint about the standard of the report.Lives are being put at risk by young motorists who modify their cars to boost performance, says the AA.
The motoring organisation wants tighter controls for things like nitrous oxide kits which are used to massively increase an engine's power.
AA Chairman Edmund King says it's young motorists who are most at risk and he wants to see new rules about how much people can modify their cars.
Five hundred young people die in car crashes across the UK every year.
Nitrous oxide is just one of the things motorists are using to soup-up their cars and make them go faster.
It's usually known as laughing gas and used to make fillings less painful at the dentist. But in a car it has a very different effect.
Twenty-five-year-old car-owner Dale Vodden wants his wheels to say something about him and has so far spent about £16,000 on it.
He's had a nitrous oxide kit added to his Toyota MR2 which boosts the engine from 158 to nearly 300 brake horsepower.
He isn't worried and says the car can take it: "The suspension is modified, it sits nicer, it handles nicer. It's up to spec basically."
Trevor Langfield says he vets drivers before fitting new systems
Trevor Langfield has been fitting legal nitrous oxide systems for more than 30 years.
He says he vets each individual customer and only fits more powerful systems when a driver has proved it can be used safely.
He said: "What you're doing is just putting more oxygen and more fuel into the engine and that burns to make more power."
However the AA is worried about inexperienced drivers behind the wheels of such powerful cars.
King added: "We believe that many hundreds of lives are put at risk by these modified cars.
"Some 20% of new drivers have a crash in their first year of driving.
"If you then put them in a modified car that's harder to control, that's faster, that has an extra 200 brake horsepower, then accidents are much more likely to happen."
The AA says it would like new rules on modifications, including nitrous oxide, but there are no current plans to change the law.
I'm not a loser with no life who loves writing into TV shows to complain, however this is where "it" starts. By which I mean that mis-reporting like this will sway the opinion of people who don't understand the subject and get all their data from the BBC. As such 'pubic opinion' (whatever that is) will be mis-informed and hence more likley to support stupid mis-informed ministers when they propose stupid mis-informed laws.
mrmr96 said:
Spiritual_Beggar said:
Its just scuh poor reporting though!!!!
...
Just not a fair or truthful representation of things if you ask me. Standard we expect from the BBC these days though.
Agreed....
Just not a fair or truthful representation of things if you ask me. Standard we expect from the BBC these days though.
Here's the full article as it stands at 11:21 am 8/4/09
BBC_Newsbeat said:
Page last updated at 06:46 GMT, Wednesday, 8 April 2009 07:46 UK
Lives are being put at risk by young motorists who modify their cars to boost performance, says the AA.
The motoring organisation wants tighter controls for things like nitrous oxide kits which are used to massively increase an engine's power.
AA Chairman Edmund King says it's young motorists who are most at risk and he wants to see new rules about how much people can modify their cars.
Five hundred young people die in car crashes across the UK every year.
Nitrous oxide is just one of the things motorists are using to soup-up their cars and make them go faster.
It's usually known as laughing gas and used to make fillings less painful at the dentist. But in a car it has a very different effect.
Twenty-five-year-old car-owner Dale Vodden wants his wheels to say something about him and has so far spent about £16,000 on it.
He's had a nitrous oxide kit added to his Toyota MR2 which boosts the engine from 158 to nearly 300 brake horsepower.
He isn't worried and says the car can take it: "The suspension is modified, it sits nicer, it handles nicer. It's up to spec basically."
Trevor Langfield says he vets drivers before fitting new systems
Trevor Langfield has been fitting legal nitrous oxide systems for more than 30 years.
He says he vets each individual customer and only fits more powerful systems when a driver has proved it can be used safely.
He said: "What you're doing is just putting more oxygen and more fuel into the engine and that burns to make more power."
However the AA is worried about inexperienced drivers behind the wheels of such powerful cars.
King added: "We believe that many hundreds of lives are put at risk by these modified cars.
"Some 20% of new drivers have a crash in their first year of driving.
"If you then put them in a modified car that's harder to control, that's faster, that has an extra 200 brake horsepower, then accidents are much more likely to happen."
The AA says it would like new rules on modifications, including nitrous oxide, but there are no current plans to change the law.
I intend to write and make a complaint about the standard of the report.Lives are being put at risk by young motorists who modify their cars to boost performance, says the AA.
The motoring organisation wants tighter controls for things like nitrous oxide kits which are used to massively increase an engine's power.
AA Chairman Edmund King says it's young motorists who are most at risk and he wants to see new rules about how much people can modify their cars.
Five hundred young people die in car crashes across the UK every year.
Nitrous oxide is just one of the things motorists are using to soup-up their cars and make them go faster.
It's usually known as laughing gas and used to make fillings less painful at the dentist. But in a car it has a very different effect.
Twenty-five-year-old car-owner Dale Vodden wants his wheels to say something about him and has so far spent about £16,000 on it.
He's had a nitrous oxide kit added to his Toyota MR2 which boosts the engine from 158 to nearly 300 brake horsepower.
He isn't worried and says the car can take it: "The suspension is modified, it sits nicer, it handles nicer. It's up to spec basically."
Trevor Langfield says he vets drivers before fitting new systems
Trevor Langfield has been fitting legal nitrous oxide systems for more than 30 years.
He says he vets each individual customer and only fits more powerful systems when a driver has proved it can be used safely.
He said: "What you're doing is just putting more oxygen and more fuel into the engine and that burns to make more power."
However the AA is worried about inexperienced drivers behind the wheels of such powerful cars.
King added: "We believe that many hundreds of lives are put at risk by these modified cars.
"Some 20% of new drivers have a crash in their first year of driving.
"If you then put them in a modified car that's harder to control, that's faster, that has an extra 200 brake horsepower, then accidents are much more likely to happen."
The AA says it would like new rules on modifications, including nitrous oxide, but there are no current plans to change the law.
I'm not a loser with no life who loves writing into TV shows to complain, however this is where "it" starts. By which I mean that mis-reporting like this will sway the opinion of people who don't understand the subject and get all their data from the BBC. As such 'pubic opinion' (whatever that is) will be mis-informed and hence more likley to support stupid mis-informed ministers when they propose stupid mis-informed laws.
The fickle british public would have watched that report and come away thinking all young drivers are crazed driving maniacs with 1000bhp nova's driving at 300mph everywhere, which is a complete and utter misrepresentation.
Because the majority of the public are too stupid to make their own minds up and rely on what the BBC tells them to be the truth. Its sad, but its a true reflection of our country at the moment IMO.
But the system does all ready account for this in the need for, and cost of insurance.
Insurance companies require knowledge of any modifications and will adjust the premium accordingly, without that they're not insured, hence illegal.
What they didn't ask the chap in the film is how much his premium went up after advising them of his mods.
Insurance companies require knowledge of any modifications and will adjust the premium accordingly, without that they're not insured, hence illegal.
What they didn't ask the chap in the film is how much his premium went up after advising them of his mods.
BBC_Newsbeat said:
Five hundred young people die in car crashes across the UK every year.
But how many of those were in Modified cars?I know 4 teenagers that were all hurt in different accidents last year - all were to blame - none were in Modded cars though. 'Chaved-up'?...sure...modded...nah.
and couldn't believe the standard of the report. It was shocking.JagLover said:
I've been listening to the hysterical reporting on this on Radio 1 today.
Same here. Made me laugh when somebody text in and said there's so much boost from NOS, some drivers will have trouble holding onto the wheel. 
Think some have been watching too many Fast & Furious films.
Shame the reporters don't look into the facts before spouting crap.
Just heard it on the radio, the mother is saying that the NOS is dangerous and that the speed kills. Her son was driving at around 70mph in a 30 mph limit. He is a f
king idiot who would get killed driving anything at that speed. The went on repeatedly about the NOS and the car didnt even have it fitted.
Its idiot drivers who are the problem NOT modified cars, most of the people i know with modded cars drive them well and sensibly as its their P&J.
The AA should know better.
king idiot who would get killed driving anything at that speed. The went on repeatedly about the NOS and the car didnt even have it fitted.Its idiot drivers who are the problem NOT modified cars, most of the people i know with modded cars drive them well and sensibly as its their P&J.
The AA should know better.
Hands up anyone here that actually beleives any driver under the age of 25 with NoS fitted (amongst other stuff) has actually fully declared all modifications to their insurers?
Because I dont believe any of them will have. Having an accident with one of them could well be a nightmare.
Because I dont believe any of them will have. Having an accident with one of them could well be a nightmare.
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