another day, another sad story about a young toddler
Discussion
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_ce...
"Brandon died at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee on 16 March 2008 after suffering what the jury was told would have been a painful death"
Is it just and fair that we lock this scumbag up for a few years and then let him go about his merry way?
"Brandon died at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee on 16 March 2008 after suffering what the jury was told would have been a painful death"
Is it just and fair that we lock this scumbag up for a few years and then let him go about his merry way?
pano amo said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_ce...
"Brandon died at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee on 16 March 2008 after suffering what the jury was told would have been a painful death"
Is it just and fair that we lock this scumbag up for a few years and then let him go about his merry way?
Not really no."Brandon died at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee on 16 March 2008 after suffering what the jury was told would have been a painful death"
Is it just and fair that we lock this scumbag up for a few years and then let him go about his merry way?
But the alternative is to murder him in the name of the state. Would that make our society any better? I firmly believe it would not...
There aren't any "winners" in a case such as this. Only losers.
Edited by AlexKP on Tuesday 3rd March 13:36
anonymous said:
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You're quite right in that there's only losers in a case like this, and like you I don't condone capital punishment under any circumstances. However.... can't we just make life a little bit more unpleasant for scum like this? Not kill them, but make them work hard and live under harsh circumstances. I realise that's not much of a plan but it seems just, doesn't kill them, and might make the scum think twice about doing something like this. I agree that murdering these people would not make society better. But shouldn't a line be drawn for certain crimes? Whats the difference between robbing a car and battering and murdering a young child? Just a longer custodial sentance for the latter crime. The punishment of being locked up is not a suffering, its not painful, not to these people anyway.
If you are an evil b
d and you hurt a kid, you're probably not that worried if you get caught. You only go to prison.
If you are an evil b
d and you hurt a kid, you're probably not that worried if you get caught. You only go to prison. anonymous said:
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Obviously not a fan of the death penalty, im not a huge advocate of it either, for the 'what if they are innocent' reason. I do however wonder if people like this should be allowed teo continue wasting oxygen. I also read in the paper today about an 18 year old, taken in by a family as part of a fostering type scheme, who went on to molest thier 9 year old daughter and rape thier toddler. Honestly, what right does a scumbag like that have to a continued existence, yet how can you apply the death penalty to an 18 year old? Tough isnt it. Obviously if life inprisonment meant the rest of thier days then i dont see the need for capital punishment, perhaps paltry prison sentences and early releases are why we see so many clamour for a death senteence. Sorry for spelling, posting from phone.Jasandjules said:
anonymous said:
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And yet I think the Earth would be a better place without scum like that on it.And I rather think I'd be willing to pull the trigger as well - as would half the Jury I imagine.
Once we start to "cleanse" the world of anyone we don't like or agree with it is a very dark path down which we are proceeding...
nonplussed said:
However.... can't we just make life a little bit more unpleasant for scum like this? Not kill them, but make them work hard and live under harsh circumstances. I realise that's not much of a plan but it seems just, doesn't kill them, and might make the scum think twice about doing something like this.
I totally agree. To send someone of to prison is just not right imo. The scumbag will sit on his arse for a few years and then hes a free man. They should suffer, perhaps not inflicting physical pain on them but something to make them pay for what they did. This guy killed a defendless child, the most vulnerable type of person in our society. Just locking them up just isn't fit. Having read all of those - I am convinced some people are sh*te parents/carers. If they can't look after themselves it defys logic that they can look after someone else - let alone something as precious as a child. No solution.
As for the foster child case - if he had done that to my son - I would in all honesty make sure he couldn't do it to someone else (using a rusty knife) and may god be my judge
As for the foster child case - if he had done that to my son - I would in all honesty make sure he couldn't do it to someone else (using a rusty knife) and may god be my judge
Edited by Coco H on Tuesday 3rd March 13:55
davido140 said:
I also read in the paper today about an 18 year old, taken in by a family as part of a fostering type scheme, who went on to molest thier 9 year old daughter and rape thier toddler. Honestly, what right does a scumbag like that have to a continued existence, yet how can you apply the death penalty to an 18 year old? Tough isnt it?
Very tough. But it is by attitudes to this kind of problem/tragedy that I believe a civilised society must be judged.I would be willing to bet a large amount of money that that 18yr old you mention was himself abused and a victim of his upbringing. Does he deserve villification, or sympathy, or both?
anonymous said:
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I perfectly accept your position, I have friends and family who hold the same views. However, it is a price I am willing to pay.Realistically, this sub-human scumbag tortured a child (now, I don't like children, but I detest anyone who attacks something which cannot defend itself) over a period of months causing him immense suffering. I think the LEAST we can do is subject him to the same punishment.
anonymous said:
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You know what, I don't care if he was. It's a terrible thing to happen which means he should be all the more aware of the consequences of his actions and the misery and agony he was inflicting on that poor little boy.Where there's absolutely no doubt of guilt, I am supportive of the death penalty.
Edited by Lefty Guns on Tuesday 3rd March 14:05
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