Assisted Suicide
Discussion
Now I can understand finishig yourself off with a bit of help if you have a terminal illness and are in pain but surely in the case things have gone to far. In my opinion the clinic should not have helped him die.
"The parents of a paralysed rugby player who travelled to a Swiss assisted suicide clinic have said their son had tried several times to kill himself.
Daniel James, 23, of Worcester, died on 12 September in a clinic where he had travelled with the intention of killing himself, an inquest heard.
West Mercia Police said a man and a woman had been questioned.
His parents said he was an intelligent young man of sound mind who did not want to live a second-class existence."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/...
"The parents of a paralysed rugby player who travelled to a Swiss assisted suicide clinic have said their son had tried several times to kill himself.
Daniel James, 23, of Worcester, died on 12 September in a clinic where he had travelled with the intention of killing himself, an inquest heard.
West Mercia Police said a man and a woman had been questioned.
His parents said he was an intelligent young man of sound mind who did not want to live a second-class existence."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hereford/worcs/...
A shame he couldn't come to terms with it. But, at 23 he's very much an adult, and I believe that we should have the right to make this choice (provided we're 'of sound mind').I suppose an inquest must happen. But the press should leave the family alone; this must've been horrible enough already.
So a bloke goes to a GP and says he wants to die. Should the GP:
A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
I think the clinic went to far in this case. I also don't understand why someone who was paralysed from the chest down couldn't top himself. Why did he travel to the clinic?
A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
I think the clinic went to far in this case. I also don't understand why someone who was paralysed from the chest down couldn't top himself. Why did he travel to the clinic?
Fittster said:
So a bloke goes to a GP and says he wants to die. Should the GP:
A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
I think the clinic went to far in this case. I also don't understand why someone who was paralysed from the chest down couldn't top himself. Why did he travel to the clinic?
Because it's legal there. And he doubtless didn't want his parents to be prosecuted. Which is ironic, as the asshat police in this country have now arrested them.A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
I think the clinic went to far in this case. I also don't understand why someone who was paralysed from the chest down couldn't top himself. Why did he travel to the clinic?
He wanted to die. He did it the right way. They should leave him and his family alone.
Oh and as for "councilling" he was tetraplegic. No amount of sympathy from a well meaning beardy in a chunky sweater is going to fix it.
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Friday 17th October 17:50
Gruppe1875 said:
His life, his choice imo
agreed, up to a point, but I feel a bit sad about this case because he didn't seem to give himself enough time to come to terms with his injury ..if he could only have come down to our ski club on a back-up week to see how much of a life he could still have led ..Fittster said:
So a bloke goes to a GP and says he wants to die. Should the GP:
A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
How do you counsel a physical disability away?A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
Fittster said:
I think the clinic went to far in this case. I also don't understand why someone who was paralysed from the chest down couldn't top himself. Why did he travel to the clinic?
Because it's less traumatic to have it done to you, than have to administer it yourself?threadkiller! said:
Gruppe1875 said:
His life, his choice imo
agreed, up to a point, but I feel a bit sad about this case because he didn't seem to give himself enough time to come to terms with his injury ..if he could only have come down to our ski club on a back-up week to see how much of a life he could still have led ..If I was utterly paralysed and helpless, I'd do myself in. 100% no doubt.
"Come to terms with it..." FFS!
Vesuvius 996 said:
threadkiller! said:
Gruppe1875 said:
His life, his choice imo
agreed, up to a point, but I feel a bit sad about this case because he didn't seem to give himself enough time to come to terms with his injury ..if he could only have come down to our ski club on a back-up week to see how much of a life he could still have led ..If I was utterly paralysed and helpless, I'd do myself in. 100% no doubt.
"Come to terms with it..." FFS!
Edited by 12joe340 on Friday 17th October 18:04
V8mate said:
Fittster said:
So a bloke goes to a GP and says he wants to die. Should the GP:
A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
How do you counsel a physical disability away?A) Say fair enough and administer a Lethal injection.
B) Arrange for the patient to get appropriate counciling?
Fittster said:
I think the clinic went to far in this case. I also don't understand why someone who was paralysed from the chest down couldn't top himself. Why did he travel to the clinic?
Because it's less traumatic to have it done to you, than have to administer it yourself?A lot of people with a physical disability come to terms with their injury and lead fulfilling lives.
Assistance should only be granted to those physically unable to take their own lives.
Fittster said:
If you haven't got the stomach to take the pills yourself when you are physically able to maybe you aren’t fully committed to finishing your life.
A lot of people with a physical disability come to terms with their injury and lead fulfilling lives.
Assistance should only be granted to those physically unable to take their own lives.
Doing yourself in with over the counter medication is a tricky business; I can see why this guy went to people who knew what they were doing. I think it's hard to argue to he wasn't fully committed when he travelled all the way to Switzerland to kill himself.A lot of people with a physical disability come to terms with their injury and lead fulfilling lives.
Assistance should only be granted to those physically unable to take their own lives.
Vesuvius 996 said:
threadkiller! said:
Gruppe1875 said:
His life, his choice imo
agreed, up to a point, but I feel a bit sad about this case because he didn't seem to give himself enough time to come to terms with his injury ..if he could only have come down to our ski club on a back-up week to see how much of a life he could still have led ..If I was utterly paralysed and helpless, I'd do myself in. 100% no doubt.
"Come to terms with it..." FFS!
To my mind the Swiss doctors killed someone suffering from depression who didn't want the responsibility of taking his own life.
Vesuvius 996 said:
Gruppe1875 said:
His life, his choice imo
+1I only hope if I end up in that state someone will help me deal with myself.
His life, his choice.
hairykrishna said:
Doing yourself in with over the counter medication is a tricky business; I can see why this guy went to people who knew what they were doing. I think it's hard to argue to he wasn't fully committed when he travelled all the way to Switzerland to kill himself.
12x paracetamol will normally do it, in most cases even if they pump your stomach. Liver failure is not quick or painless.XJSJohn said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
Gruppe1875 said:
His life, his choice imo
+1I only hope if I end up in that state someone will help me deal with myself.
His life, his choice.
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