Denver airport incident

[Mabbs9]

Ghastly incident at Denver international last night. Person hit by aircraft taking off.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y95782wyko

Extremely cool flight crew actions. Bravo

Edited by Mabbs9 on Saturday 9th May 18:01

[skyebear]

Passengers yet again evacuating via slides with their luggage.

Many passengers also stopped to film inside the engine and had to be ordered away.

People are fking awful.

[Arrivalist]

skyebear said:

Passengers yet again evacuating via slides with their luggage.

Many passengers also stopped to film inside the engine and had to be ordered away.

People are fking awful.

It’s the start of the end of humans. Getting more and more inhumane and deserving of a good kicking.

I love many people, I detest people in general.

[Master Bean]

BunkMoreland said:

skyebear said:

Passengers yet again evacuating via slides with their luggage.

Many passengers also stopped to film inside the engine and had to be ordered away.

People are fking awful.

Its a very simple solution.

Anyone filmed evacuating with luggage gets put on a worldwide no fly list for 20 years.

Because everyone commenting on an evacuation would be perfect. You don't know how you'd react in the situation. It's easy to type and say you'd do things differently.

[poo at Paul's]

Everyone who exits a slide with had luggage, just needs to go on a no fly list. Sorted.

[mcdjl]

I've got some sympathy. I don't know frontier, but in Ryan Air in order to get out of your seat you have to shift your hand luggage so I imagine it's quicker to take it with you.

[MrBogSmith]

poo at Paul's said:

Everyone who exits a slide with had luggage, just needs to go on a no fly list. Sorted.

What's sorted?

[twister]

mcdjl said:

I've got some sympathy. I don't know frontier, but in Ryan Air in order to get out of your seat you have to shift your hand luggage so I imagine it's quicker to take it with you.

Fairly sure that allowing hand luggage to remain in places which would impede exit from the aircraft is a complete no-no, so not sure exactly what you're referring to here re Ryan Air.

[Buzz84]

twister said:

mcdjl said:

I've got some sympathy. I don't know frontier, but in Ryan Air in order to get out of your seat you have to shift your hand luggage so I imagine it's quicker to take it with you.

Fairly sure that allowing hand luggage to remain in places which would impede exit from the aircraft is a complete no-no, so not sure exactly what you're referring to here re Ryan Air.

Exactly, They are supposed to be either in the overhead locker or under the seat in front so they are not in the way.

Plus of course ryanair only allow cabin bags of such a small size they probably aren't physically capable of forming an obstruction.

[jimmyjimjim]

I wonder where he came from. DIA is out in the arse end of no-where; it's not like Heathrow where he could have lived on the perimeter road and just felt like jumping the fence one evening.
I also wonder where the hell he was going.

[Ultra Sound Guy]

jimmyjimjim said:

I wonder where he came from. DIA is out in the arse end of no-where; it's not like Heathrow where he could have lived on the perimeter road and just felt like jumping the fence one evening.
I also wonder where the hell he was going.

Awaits normal suspects to come along and presume his ethnicity!

[poo at Paul's]

MrBogSmith said:

hat's sorted?

Try and work it out yourself.

[captain_cynic]

BunkMoreland said:

Its a very simple solution.

Anyone filmed evacuating with luggage gets put on a worldwide no fly list for 20 years.

And how do you propose identifying them beyond doubt?

[mcdjl]

twister said:

Fairly sure that allowing hand luggage to remain in places which would impede exit from the aircraft is a complete no-no, so not sure exactly what you're referring to here re Ryan Air.

The flight staff settle for off your lap at best, so just on the floor.

[milesgiles]

mcdjl said:

twister said:

Fairly sure that allowing hand luggage to remain in places which would impede exit from the aircraft is a complete no-no, so not sure exactly what you're referring to here re Ryan Air.

The flight staff settle for off your lap at best, so just on the floor.

Not on any flight I’ve ever been on

[MrBogSmith]

poo at Paul's said:

MrBogSmith said:

What's sorted?

Try and work it out yourself.

I did.

Something reactive doesn’t change what happened. And I judge it’ll have zero prohibitive value given it’s an atypical, high stress scenario.

So not “sorted”.

[mac96]

captain_cynic said:

BunkMoreland said:

Its a very simple solution.

Anyone filmed evacuating with luggage gets put on a worldwide no fly list for 20 years.

And how do you propose identifying them beyond doubt?

Or defining 'luggage '. Including handbag over shoulder? Attached to belt? How big? A laptop is luggage but not a phone? A jacket? Etc...

[Mabbs9]

mac96 said:

captain_cynic said:

BunkMoreland said:

Its a very simple solution.

Anyone filmed evacuating with luggage gets put on a worldwide no fly list for 20 years.

And how do you propose identifying them beyond doubt?

Or defining 'luggage '. Including handbag over shoulder? Attached to belt? How big? A laptop is luggage but not a phone? A jacket? Etc...

The procedure varies very slightly airline to airline. The one I work for says very clearly, take nothing with you. Very simple.

[theboss]

I don't think you can explain this phenomena adequately by assuming that people are stupid and/or selfish. It happens too consistently, across cultures (the Japanese A350 case being the exception) and even now with onboard smartphone footage showing crew standing there repeatedly and clearly shouting to leave the bags behind.

I'm not a psychologist but there has to be a more scientific explanation that explains irrational zombie type behaviour in emergencies.

I think of the Aeroflot 1492 incident where people at the front were casually emptying overhead bins whilst people at the tail were facing death by fire. There's just no rational explanation.

I don't know how I would behave because I've never been in a comparable life threatening situation. The one thing I can relate to is alerting my family to a domestic kitchen fire in my early teens, and that was panicky enough without anyone being trapped / blocked from exiting to safety. Put a few hundred people in an enclosed space and fk knows what state of mind they go into.

The Swiss nightclub fire recently was also revealing of a similar phenomena.

Edited by theboss on Sunday 10th May 16:57

[Wheel Turned Out]

Arrivalist said:

skyebear said:

Passengers yet again evacuating via slides with their luggage.

Many passengers also stopped to film inside the engine and had to be ordered away.

People are fking awful.

It s the start of the end of humans. Getting more and more inhumane and deserving of a good kicking.

I love many people, I detest people in general.

Are you aware of the irony of this statement?