Forces Minister Alistair Carns
Discussion
I had dinner with a chap last week, another services gentleman who mentioned him and said he was fairly impressed with him so far. Had to admit, Id never heard of the bloke and had to look him up. Seemed ok, didnt really think much of it.
The Times then ran an article on him last Friday or Sat I think, a fairly mild but positive puff piece and even my wife suddenly commented on saying she thought was ok. Now a PH thread of his very own!
He seems to be very much the flavour of the month. Whether its new messiah complex, just his turn this month or a desperation PR stunt to push a new guy with a good service jacket, I guess we shall see over the next few months and yrs.
The Times then ran an article on him last Friday or Sat I think, a fairly mild but positive puff piece and even my wife suddenly commented on saying she thought was ok. Now a PH thread of his very own!
He seems to be very much the flavour of the month. Whether its new messiah complex, just his turn this month or a desperation PR stunt to push a new guy with a good service jacket, I guess we shall see over the next few months and yrs.
https://youtu.be/_GkaA9qAuCE?si=Ly53_u4TCR5jYz7p
He seems excellent, but I fear in a government 20 or 35 years ago he would have been considered average.
He seems excellent, but I fear in a government 20 or 35 years ago he would have been considered average.

hidetheelephants said:
The same nonsense was trotted out for Dan Jarvis after he'd been an MP for 5 minutes. Ask again in 12 months.
Why is it nonsense?We've had a succession of leaders who really can't carry themselves in public. Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Starmer. All either gauche or embarrassing.
Yes, it's not the most important quality, but it's a basic starting point.
I'd much rather have a leader who has combat experience, and uses this to push back on overnight bs:
https://x.com/AlistairCarns/status/201465340310894...
I also think defence spending should be a much higher budget priority, certainly than our misguided and cack-handed net zero focus. And I think Carns would agree and see this through.
Mr Penguin said:
Dominic Cummings also mentioned him on his interview on Quite Right as someone who was talented and able, this from interactions with him when Carns was still in the forces.
it's far from clear that being commended by Cummings is a positive rather than a negative.....CloudStuff said:
Why is it nonsense?
We've had a succession of leaders who really can't carry themselves in public. Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Starmer. All either gauche or embarrassing.
Yes, it's not the most important quality, but it's a basic starting point.
I'd much rather have a leader who has combat experience, and uses this to push back on overnight bs:
https://x.com/AlistairCarns/status/201465340310894...
I also think defence spending should be a much higher budget priority, certainly than our misguided and cack-handed net zero focus. And I think Carns would agree and see this through.
That military experience will magically make him a great politician, Dan Jarvis was hyped by breathless idiots as a potential party leader practically before he'd made his maiden speech and it appears to have harmed his career rather than helped. Cairns might be but it will be because he's adapted to a job that's completely different to what he's done previously.We've had a succession of leaders who really can't carry themselves in public. Johnson, Truss, Sunak, Starmer. All either gauche or embarrassing.
Yes, it's not the most important quality, but it's a basic starting point.
I'd much rather have a leader who has combat experience, and uses this to push back on overnight bs:
https://x.com/AlistairCarns/status/201465340310894...
I also think defence spending should be a much higher budget priority, certainly than our misguided and cack-handed net zero focus. And I think Carns would agree and see this through.
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