If your house is on fire best remember your pronouns
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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/15620576/fir...
A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying “fireman” has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying “fireman” has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
Edible Roadkill said:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/15620576/fir...
A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying fireman has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
My reading of it was that he was in a position of power and when the issue was brought to his attention he either did nothing or encouraged it. I suspect there were wider issues with sexism at play (see BCC article).A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying fireman has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
Edible Roadkill said:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/15620576/fir...
A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying fireman has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
How long ago since racists and sexist bosses stopped being okay?A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying fireman has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
It seems reasonable that the woman in question should be a bit miffed at people saying "fireman" when she is one of them. It can be a hard habit to change, but when it's actually one of your colleagues people should be reminded to at least make an effort.
It's a shame for the manager in question but it looks like he already had mental health problems.
It's a shame for the manager in question but it looks like he already had mental health problems.
Mojooo said:
Edible Roadkill said:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/15620576/fir...
A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying fireman has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
My reading of it was that he was in a position of power and when the issue was brought to his attention he either did nothing or encouraged it. I suspect there were wider issues with sexism at play (see BCC article).A SENIOR firefighter who quit after being disciplined for failing to stop his staff saying fireman has lost his unfair dismissal case.
Wokeism at its finest.
Rivenink said:
I wonder how many people here would be fine with being mis-gendered by a colleague on a daily basis, and wouldn't go all "woke" by insisting that colleague respects their gender.
And in this case it's not even simply a gender/pronouns issue as in anyone's book she is female. As I say higher up, it can be a hard habit to break. I heard a female chair a couple of years ago refer to herself as "the chairman". But this was about the boss being asked to remind their staff to use the appropriate term which is entirely different. 
This is typical sensationalism to get people riled.
As I am reading it:
- like it or not, the accepted gender neutral term within the fire service these days is 'firefighter'
- this bloke was watch manager, male firefighters kept using the term 'fireman', probably to wind the 'firewoman' up
- she sued the fire service, trousered £52k compo
- as her manager he was reprimanded but not sacked for failing to manage his team on this issue
- he then resigned, claimed constructive dismissal, and quite rightly lost.
What an absolute chump, a massive amount of biting off his nose to spite his face.
Any sensible grown adult would have gathered the male members of his team together and said "looks fellas, I know this is woke mind virus nonsense, but the accepted term these days is 'firefighter'. I don't want to die on this hill, can you please just use it round the station at all times, but especially in the company of our lady firefighter. All good with that? Right, who fancies a pint?"
Then they'd probably still be working alongside each other as firepersons.
As I am reading it:
- like it or not, the accepted gender neutral term within the fire service these days is 'firefighter'
- this bloke was watch manager, male firefighters kept using the term 'fireman', probably to wind the 'firewoman' up
- she sued the fire service, trousered £52k compo
- as her manager he was reprimanded but not sacked for failing to manage his team on this issue
- he then resigned, claimed constructive dismissal, and quite rightly lost.
What an absolute chump, a massive amount of biting off his nose to spite his face.
Any sensible grown adult would have gathered the male members of his team together and said "looks fellas, I know this is woke mind virus nonsense, but the accepted term these days is 'firefighter'. I don't want to die on this hill, can you please just use it round the station at all times, but especially in the company of our lady firefighter. All good with that? Right, who fancies a pint?"
Then they'd probably still be working alongside each other as firepersons.
Firefighter even sounds cool. And it's a more accurate description of what they do than "fireman".
Calling someone a "chair" or a "postperson" sounds daft. I've never understood why calling someone an "actress" is a problem. Why get upset about actor and actress when we don't get upset by grandmother and grandfather? ... Oh, no, no, no, no,no, you entitled racist meat eater, you must call them "grandparent", said nobody.
Calling someone a "chair" or a "postperson" sounds daft. I've never understood why calling someone an "actress" is a problem. Why get upset about actor and actress when we don't get upset by grandmother and grandfather? ... Oh, no, no, no, no,no, you entitled racist meat eater, you must call them "grandparent", said nobody.
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